not a support question
llev
offlineMember
Hi Aleksej,
Yes, it did it in Slitaz 4 and it still did in 5RC2 before installation of gvfs-udisks2.
Adding the mount point to bookmarks doesn't do the trick, because it simply adds the empty mount folder, and clicking on it doesn't mount the relevant device.
(I'll try to revert back to the old behaviour and take screenshots.)
llev
offlineMember
Here you are: first, without gvfs-udisks2, two screenshots to show the old, wanted behaviour(*); the third screenshot shows what pcmanfm displays when gvfs-udisks2 is installed.
(*) What's wanted is that pcmanfm shows fstab entries.
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Aleksej
offlineCoder-hobbyist
Hi Lucas,
Oh sorry, I forgot about "noauto" option. So, I mistakenly decide that partition should mounts on booting, if you add entry into your /etc/fstab file.
Currently, my SliTaz is semi-broken. Internal HDD partitions mounts well on boot, but mounting of external USB Flash works in half of times. Seems it not works in present week :) Sorry, I don't know even is it works in our upstream, Rolling release, or not.
Searching the net for "PCManFM /etc/fstab" I not found something relevant dated not too old. Maybe this topic will be helpful:
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/pcmanfm-mount-devices-as-user
Or not. So sorry, I can not help you with this problem.
mojo
offlineKey Master
Connected drives should appear in left pane of pcmanfm.
If they are mounted by either clicking on the drive icon or auto-mounted by /etc/fstab there is an up arrow umount/eject icon.
There are no drives showing with_gvfs-udisks2.png
tazpkg -gi udisks2 --forced
These 2 threads have more possible solutions if needed:
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/rc2-usb-wont-automount
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/automountinternal-drive-icons-doesnt-work-anymore-in-pcmanfm
llev
offlineMember
Hi mojo,
Thanks for the hints. Alas, still no luck. I purged cache and reinstalled all installed gvfs-*, udisks2, and pcmanfm.
~> tazpkg list|grep gvfs
gvfs 1.22.1 system-tools
gvfs-dev 1.22.1 development
gvfs-fuse 1.22.1 system-tools
gvfs-udisks2 1.22.1 system-toolsIs it enough?
I have no message when launching pcmanfm form a terminal.
mojo
offlineKey Master
I experienced the bug on one of my slitaz full installs after a recent update. When I installed udisks2 --forced from the package cache and rebooted my attached drives appeared again in pcmanfm.
Maybe some error messages when starting pcmanfm in terminal?
Open a terminal
Type
pcmanfm
Hit enter
Post any error messages.
llev
offlineMember
To be complete, I also reinstalled slim and slitaz-configs-base, as suggested in one of the thread you cite. I also reinstalled again udisks2. Rebooted after all that. Still no joy, and no error message when launching pcmanfm from a terminal.
But there's still some hope: when I launch pcmanfm as root it works as expected, with the following warning:
root@slitaz:/home/tux # pcmanfm
Error creating proxy: La connexion est fermée (g-io-error-quark, 18)
** (pcmanfm:1300): WARNING **: modules directory is not accessible
match profile: viewnior_on_folder
match profile: viewnior_on_images
match profile: gpicview_on_folder
match profile: image_wallpaper
match profile: on_archive
match profile: root_on_folder
match profile: gvfs-info
match profile: any
match profile: file_root_editI can't see why it works as root and not as tux.
~> groups
users tty disk floppy video cdrom audio plugdev dialout scanner cameraThe only groups tux is not a member of are: root, daemon, bin, sys, adm, lp, kmem, wheel, tape, www, nogroup, messagebus, haldaemon.
kultex
offlineKey Master
as nobody answers I try to continue, but I have no idea about pcmanfm, because I hate pcmanfm
first can you post the output of: $ df - as an example my output:
tux@slitaz:~ $ df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 646360 280 646080 0% /run
tmpfs 1163452 462672 700780 40% /
devtmpfs 427892 0 427892 0% /dev
tmpfs 646360 0 646360 0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb2 21212392 13920532 6214308 69% /home
/dev/sdb1 2030928 35792 1891968 2% /media/slitaz-root
/dev/sdb3 7529084 147872 6998748 2% /media/save
/dev/sdc1 7827424 7166388 661036 92% /media/BOOTCD_USB
/dev/sda3 15217664 168816 14275832 1% /media/sda3-ata-PHOTOFAST18CF_32
/dev/sda2 5477920 1341056 4136864 24% /media/sda2-ata-PHOTOFAST18CF_32
/dev/sda1 9438156 6288377 3149779 67% /media/sda1-ata-PHOTOFAST18CF_32
second the output of: ls -l /folder of your fstab disk
as an exemple - spacefm und udevil mounts evrything in /meda - it should be something like this
tux@slitaz:~ $ ls -l /media
total 28
drwxr-xr-x 29 tux users 8192 Jan 1 1970 BOOTCD_USB
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 40 Jan 17 2013 cdrom
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 40 Jan 17 2013 flash
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 4 2013 save
drwxrwxrwx 1 tux users 4096 Jan 25 13:02 sda1-ata-PHOTOFAST18CF_32
drwxr-xr-x 9 tux users 4096 Jan 1 1970 sda2-ata-PHOTOFAST18CF_32
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 16 2013 sda3-ata-PHOTOFAST18CF_32
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 4 2013 slitaz-root
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 40 Jan 17 2013 usbdisk
and third output as root of #fdisk -l
root@slitaz:/home/tux1 fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 32.0 GB, 32019316736 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3892 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 1285 10319836+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 1285 1969 5488640 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda3 1969 3893 15460352 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 32.0 GB, 32015679488 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 30532 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 2 2016 2063360 83 Linux
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary
/dev/sdb2 2017 23062 21551104 83 Linux
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary
/dev/sdb3 23063 30532 7649280 83 Linux
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary
Disk /dev/sdc: 8032 MB, 8032092160 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 976 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 * 1 977 7843808+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(975, 254, 63) logical=(976, 130, 50)
this would help to check, if there is something wrong with permission
and lst but not least can you install spacefm and tell if you have the same problems there....
llev
offlineMember
Thanks kultex for your help. Here's my report with respect to spacefm.
Spacefm can be set up to show the internal devices, but it fails to mount them with the message "udevil: denied 88: device /dev/sda1 is an internal device and you're not root", although sda1 has option "user" in fstab.
When hotplugging a NTFS USB key, I get:
"Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sdb1: Command-line `mount "/media/NTFS_part"' exited with non-zero exit status 18: Failed to write lock '/dev/sdb1': Resource temporarily unavailable
Error opening '/dev/sdb1': Resource temporarily unavailable
Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Resource temporarily unavailable",
but the key ends up mounted RW! However the masks specified in fstab are ignored.
When hotplugging a two partition USB key (FAT+squashfs), I get errors saying the partitions are already mounted, but they are correctly mounted (masks are applied to the FAT partition).
EDIT : about hotplugged devices, forget it, there must have been severe interference with pcmanfm!
llev
offlineMember
Now the answers to your requests. I trim outputs to relevant parts.
~> df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs 9614116 6270108 2855636 69% /
/dev/root 9614116 6270108 2855636 69% /
tmpfs 377972 264 377708 1% /run
tmpfs 377972 264 377708 1% /var/run
devtmpfs 377752 0 377752 0% /dev
tmpfs 377972 0 377972 0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 377972 4 377968 1% /var/lock
/dev/sda3 87891612 41172836 46718776 47% /data
/dev/sda7 15798620 7692700 8105920 49% /home
/dev/sda8 21726224 5383524 16342700 25% /archive
~> cat /etc/fstab
/dev/sda1 /win/C ntfs-3g defaults,noauto,user,permissions,fmask=177,dmask=077 0 2
/dev/sda2 /win/D ntfs-3g defaults,noauto,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,fmask=177,dmask=077 0 2
/dev/sda3 /data ntfs-3g defaults,auto,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,fmask=177,dmask=077 0 2
/dev/sda5 none swap defaults 0 0
/dev/sda7 /home ext4 defaults 0 2
/dev/sda8 /archive ext4 defaults 0 2
# clé EMTEC
/dev/disk/by-label/NTFS_part /media/NTFS_part ntfs-3g defaults,async,noauto,user,noatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,fmask=177,dmask=077 0 2
# clé Transcend
/dev/disk/by-id/usb-JetFlash_Transcend_8GB_4SQJ51NT-0:0-part2 /media/Linux_partition squashfs noauto,user 0 2
/dev/disk/by-label/LucasLevrel /media/LucasLevrel vfat defaults,async,noatime,noauto,user,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 2
~> ls -l /media /win
/media:
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 mai 13 2014 Linux_partition
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 mai 13 2014 LucasLevrel
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 mai 13 2014 NTFS_part
/win:
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 déc. 27 2012 C
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 déc. 27 2012 D
~> sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 1147 9213246 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 1148 2431 10313730 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3 2432 13373 87891615 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda4 13374 19458 48872281+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 13374 13495 979933+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/sda6 * 13496 14711 9767488+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 14712 16710 16051589+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 16710 19458 22073144 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 8004 MB, 8004829184 bytes
102 heads, 38 sectors/track, 4033 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 3876 * 512 = 1984512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 4034 7817197 7 HPFS/NTFS
Disk /dev/sdc: 8031 MB, 8031043584 bytes
99 heads, 18 sectors/track, 8802 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1782 * 512 = 912384 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 * 1 4384 3906135 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc2 4385 8803 3936672 88 Unknown
kultex
offlineKey Master
evrything looks good
what I ment with check with spacefm - what partions do you see with spacefm just after boot and uninstall udevil before, if you installed udevil
mybe in spacefm the partitions window is not open - just click the little computer left in the second row
just to check - is it a general problem or a problem with pcmanfm
pleas attach the spacefm screenshot
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llev
offlineMember
Hi,
Udevil had been installed as a dependence of spacefm. I removed it now as per your instructions.
After adding uid= and gid= to fstab, I could mount & use the Win partitions at will. My NTFS USB key mounts as expected, now that udisksctl is used by spacefm.
However I can't make it show unplugged, fstab-listed devices, even using the Show|Volumes dialog. (I guess it doesn't parse fstab itself, it relies on udev and udisks to list and mount devices.)
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Anonymous
offlineUnregistered
IMHO, it is very important that pcmanfm will *not* create automatic mounts, when run as Live RAM.
But on left, click on disk to mount, *and* icon to unmount.
That is critical for who does forensics, scripts with hardcoded disk label names, and so on... ;)
kultex
offlineKey Master
so I think, that it is mainly a problem of pcmanfm
so that means, that I have to make some fstab isos and test it on my laptop - thats the only one, where I have ntfs files.
But first one question - whats the sense of the noauto fstab entries?
pcmanfm sees my ntfs partitions and mounts them all the time on the same place - for me noauto does not have any more sense - it comes from times, when there was no udisk and no hal and you had to mount evrything by hand....
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