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   pankso
   

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   Hi all,

   So I spend the day testing different ISO flavors and way to configure Xorg. To anser Tom, yes we could go back to a ncurses lang/kmap config but I would prefer a GTK configs via tazbox.

   This time I still include Xorg with DRI but Tazbox start Xorg with the option -nolock and Tazx confifure Xorg on DISPLAY 2 to avoid any conflict. Work for me but I need you to test it on your hardware.

   Also a few Desktop polishing such as a new logout icon on the top right and remove logout function from Applications menu, new icon for TazPanel and TazWeb. And finaly please welcome Sakura Terminal in core, it's a much easier Terminal than Xterm with transparency and right click options to copy/paste commands.

   As suggested by Mojo, we could go back to a simple Xorg and Vesa drivers without DRI, the nv and intel driver. Any opposition ?

   http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/slitaz-rolling.iso
   http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/slitaz-rolling.md5
   http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/slitaz-rolling.log

   - Christophe

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   michaelbischof
   

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   Do what you find to be appropriate - but under all circumstances manage an offer that will boot into an Xscreen without headaches. Anything else is a kill for each newcomer.
   If dri, nv etc. are offered one would need a proper signal on the booting screen, not hidden!

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   michaelbischof
   

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   @pankso
   Ok, this rolling.iso boots on my PC wth this problematic oder nvidia card without any problem! Bravo!

   Though I selected the right kmap after logging in I have the wrong keymap. /etc/keymap.conf is correct.
   But in /etc/X11/xorg.d/40-Keyboard.conf the Option is wrong:
   Option "XkbLayout" "dk"
   I have to change it manually.Locale were selected ok.

   Internet with Lan was connected automatically. With Slitay 3.0 I had to manually invoke it with ,,udhcpc".
   Midori 0.4.4 is ok, the function to add bookmarks not visible straight away - but after one finds it it works.

   Well done is my final remark.

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   tux61
   

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   Hi,

   No chance on my Asus EB1502 (nvidia Ion)...
   

   <br />
   X.Org X Server 1.9.5<br />
   Release Date: 2011-03-17<br />
   [   118.796] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0<br />
   [   118.796] Build Operating System: SliTaz GNU/Linux<br />
   [   118.797] Current Operating System: Linux slitaz 2.6.37-slitaz #2 SMP Wed Mar 7 10:36:39 CET 2012 i686<br />
   [   118.797] Kernel command line: initrd=/boot/rootfs4.gz,/boot/rootfs3.gz,/boot/rootfs2.gz,/boot/rootfs1.gz lang=fr_FR kmap=fr-latin1 rw root=/dev/null vga=normal autologin BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/bzImage<br />
   [   118.797] Build Date: 18 March 2012  12:25:07AM<br />
   .../...<br />
   [   119.718] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "HID 046a:0023" (type: KEYBOARD)<br />
   [   119.718] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"<br />
   [   119.718] (**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"<br />
   [   119.718] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "fr"<br />
   [   119.718] (**) Option "xkb_options" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"<br />
   [   119.718] (EE) HID 046a:0023: failed to initialize for relative axes.<br />
   [   119.719] (II) HID 046a:0023: initialized for absolute axes.<br />
   .../...<br />

   Is it really a problem with Xorg ???
   At least no problem at all on my old Pavillon ze4282... With Slitaz it works like a new PC ! Bravo !

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   christophe
   

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   I have not tested that version but played yesterday with RC3 and found that ctrl+alt+backspace leads to a black screen. It eneded up rebooting (i think i hit ctrl+alt+del in the meantime).

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   gibor
   

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   On my PC still remains the same fault on starting Xscreen, as with previous releases RC series.
   I am sure that many users have fallen if the defect in screen have chosen the wrong language,
   were left without a graphic.
   If the choice of language and keyboard gets the boot line (and only accepts lang = en_US).
   As already reported by other error in the configuration of the keyboard.
   On the graphic I have already expressed, I am opposed to the two bar-style little ubuntu,
   Then how can you live with them especially with the new screens 16-9 to me remains a mystery.
   Improved some icons and menu settings screen.
   I believe good job, but you can still improve.

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   devl547
   

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   ~ # cook my_life

   Tried installing latest rolling on my Lenovo Y550P laptop - installer does not allow me to choose HDD partition.

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   Somewhat Reticent
   

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   How critical/robust is Xorg on pre-install live boot, compared to Xvesa? Just wondering.

   Posted 1 year ago #
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   rjarrrpcgp
   

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   Xvesa is only good for < 2000 hardware. (Such as a Dell Latitude CPi)

   Because a full X.Org is golden with Intel graphics, probably anything > 1999.

   Seems to only add around 10 MiB.

   Posted 1 year ago #
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    Somewhat Reticent
    

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    Ah, the Intel dependency infiltrating DebIan & Xorg via GNU gcc and gas in recent years. Few distros are immune. Makes using humbler hardware dicey. Like 2003 AMD. My old pc boots RC1-xvesa, but nothing later.
    Most newer distro versions turn my display off just before the desktop appears.

    ByTheWay, is there a cheatcode to avoid using an existing swap partition? I couldn't find boot doc for that.

    Posted 1 year ago #
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    michaelbischof
    

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    @Somewhat Reticent
    Fertile ground for conspiracy-type theories? ;-)
    Any background material available to understand this problem? How is that connected to gcc?
    One thing is clear: a distro that turns the display off before the Desktop screen appears is impossible for any beginner. No way.

    Posted 1 year ago #
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    mojo
    

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    @Somewhat Reticent
    There is no swapoff cheatcode.
    http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-boot-scripts/file/4e3f09beb648/etc/init.d/bootopts.sh
    Comment with # the beginning of lines 9->14
    #leafpad /etc/init.d/bootopts.sh
    Options/Line numbers
    Swap will not be written to /etc/fstab
    Generate iso with modification:
    tazlito writeiso gzip

    Posted 1 year ago #
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    Somewhat Reticent
    

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    I ran across a natural assumption (at least for an Intel programmer donating code to GNU gcc and gas) about undocumented nopl and nopw assembler instructions normal in Intel i686 chips. Of course, this may not actually be the root cause of so many recent distros turning my display off just as the desktop should appear. Complex systems are sneaky!
    Thank you, mojo - now I get to catch up on my homework - learning curve for a newbie.
    (GPartEd wouldn't allow me to unmount swap in an extended partiton.) The adventure continues ...

    Posted 1 year ago #
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    mqudsi
    

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    Some random notes about the latest rolling. I don't know if they've been reported elsewhere, and I apologize if they're duplicates.

    * Installing to disk with a different default username results in the openbox menu.xml not being written (it's blank), which gives an error message and no window manager after log in.
    * Bug I noticed in v3, still present in v4: the username "tux" is hard-coded everywhere, not just in the live environment. For instance, after installing to disk and booting from the new installation, using tazlito will insist on creating the new ISO in /home/tux instead of /home/newusername
    * Installing to disk with rolling succeeded on one virtual machine (VMware Fusion), but on my other machine (VMware Workstation) the GRUB config that was written to disk was very odd, attempting to boot from (hd3,0) instead of (0,0). There is only one HD attached to the system, it's an IDE disk. Apparently grub-probe failed in the most painful and agonizing fashion, and in its death throes it thought (hd3,0) was the correct location. I attempted this multiple times with various configuration params in the install wizard and in VMware, with no effect. I have attached the install log (EDIT: scratch that, upload failed. Here's a link instead: http://pastebin.ca/2133708 )

    EDIT

    Figured it out while working on my own software that I'm trying to get working in ST. ST is reserving devices hdaXXX, hdbXXX and hdc; the local disk is being mounted on /dev/hddXXX. Grub setup is in turn grokking that as disk #3. Probably should either cat /proc/partitions to see what's actually there instead of relying on the device name... (time to change my code to do that!)

    Posted 1 year ago #
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    plumtreed
    

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    Everything is working well, wireless is now persistant, eeepc701sdx & OTB,but 'mobile broadband' is problematic. It will connect but needs a trixar_za 'work-around'.

    The 'Terminal' icon is not 'working' and it is necessary to go to Applications> .....not a big thing but 'just sayin!

    Posted 1 year ago #

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