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• Started 6 years ago by Aleksej
• Latest reply from Ceel
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   Aleksej
   

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   You so loud. Again... :-[

   > does slitaz 5 will have a final stable release?

   Make your assumptions. Who will do it?

   If not me...
   Not Pankso...
   Not Pascal...

   ... then who?

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   lm2
   

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   >... then who?

   hmm.
   let me think : the person who initiated it?

   i'm sorry of being loud.. but sometimes end users are expecting things from software developpers.. if we can't give a feedback, we just have to leave.. sadly to come up here..

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   kultex
   

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   lm2 - this is my last warning - if you dont stop to fool around I kick you out of the forum

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   moulefrite
   

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   hi

   i gave a try to this

   http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/next/slitaz-next-lxqt.iso

   why dont I find any tazbox or any tool to help me connect to wireless or ethernet ?

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   Aleksej
   

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   Hi moulefrite,

   At first, this topic is devoted to SliTaz Next64, and there's no SliTaz Next64 ISO on the Earth yet.
   Your link point to 32-bit SliTaz Next ISO.

   Secondly, SliTaz Next and SliTaz Next64 are only PoC (Proof of Concept). I made ISO in order to test whether it boot and run, or not. I specifically not added GRUB, SliTaz Installer and some other things I don't recall now to that ISO: it is only Live CD.

   Thirdly, tool to configure Wi-Fi connection exists (although you may use command line and plain text configuration file).
   But just after SliTaz-4.0 was released, this tool require web browser to show its interface (or maybe it happens early before SliTaz-4.0 release).
   You asks about SliTaz Next LXQt -> it is based on LXQt -> which is based on Qt5 -> for which SliTaz Next still miss Qt-based web browser.
   As the solution you may install any of other available web browser, based on GTK+2 or GTK+3 with the respective GTK libraries, for example, Vivaldi. Then you may open TazPanel in your web browser and proceed to the Network tab and then to Wireless menu item.

   And lastly, TazPanel has written for using in the old WebkitGTK engine-based web browsers. It (TazPanel) contain some old and undocumented hacks concerning authorization and root permissions. Using TazPanel in the modern web browser is a PITA: you should enter user name and password literally on the EVERY page of TazPanel.

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   oui
   

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   hm, I like lxqt as far used not with openbox but with jwm as we, old SliTaz users, were accostumed with the use of jwm...

   it would be a good reason to use some SliTaz-lxqt distro!

   There are some old Qt browser working well and never taken in consideration in SliTaz. Without fans, some developers finish by renounce to continue their project. I suppose QtWeb is such one!

   QtWeb, yes, the very old version continue to be one of the best and polyvalent browser and seems to be a qt based web browsers or not?

   on a lot of distributions, it can be considered as a very small browser with such power (ok, in Debian Jessie, I have razor preinstalled. To add jwm to razor, only go to ~/.config/razor/session.conf and introduce jwm in the line window_manager= !

   in lxqt, it is the same!)

   Qt-Web satisfy very exigent requirement of French and German people concerning ability to manage replays from national French TV or email from major email supplier gmx.net (both very exigent concerning quality of browser requiring access).

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   moulefrite
   

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   oh yes, my bad :à

   did u miss something in ur update of january ? Coz look, Alanyih screenshot

   http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-next-i-give-up#post-45399

   i see wifi-configuration. Do the Slitaz-Config terminal working ?

   An update of Slitaz lxqt is planned ?

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   Aleksej
   

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   Guys!
   I like your attention to this topic.
   But have you ever read the title of this topic and at least my first post in this topic?
   What are we talking about here?
   Do you know that you yourself can create topics on this forum?
   You can create a topic and ask your question, and do not write this question in the first caught topic.
   My technical theme, my announcement of Next64 is like a dump.
   Forum is sucks :-(((

   > did u miss something in ur update of january ? Coz look, Alanyih screenshot

   I can't recall what missed there, it was relatively long ago. You may check it yourself.

   > i see wifi-configuration.

   I'm too. You haven't that menu item?

   > Do the Slitaz-Config terminal working ?

   What is the Slitaz-Config and why couldn't you just to check it?

   > An update of Slitaz lxqt is planned ?

   Yes, of course. I like up-to-date packages.

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   moulefrite
   

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   yes, there is slitaz-config is there in the iso ..i checked. But no xterm , tazlito , tazweb .. etc... lot of features missing when right click on a file ("rename" for exemple).

   no, unfortunality i dont have wifi setting in the menu .. strange.. but slitaz-config seems managing wifi configuration

   Posted 6 years ago #
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    Aleksej
    

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    Answers are simple. This ISO isn't the thing what you are expected. It is only PoC that was created to answer the questions in sort of "What if...?":

    - We have all the new packages in SliTaz Next repository. What if we made the ISO, will it boot at all?

    - What if make ISO using only LXQt packages? Will it be usable? RazorQt was a sort of interesting, but looking very incomplete...

    > But no xterm , tazlito , tazweb .. etc...

    Here only LXQt. No GTK. It is LXQt PoC.

    > lot of features missing when right click on a file ("rename" for exemple).

    Here PCManFM-Qt. No GTK-based PCManFM. It developed less years, and yes, some features not released yet.

    Posted 6 years ago #
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    Ceel
    

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    Hello Aleksej,

    As you are the father of Next64, maybe you are the best guy to answer this question.

    I installed Next64 for fun; bad idea, isn't it ;-)
    Well, the result seems promising. I installed first console only, then JustX and to finish lxde. Hmm this last step was a total failure.
    So I came back to more modest ambitions; as the computer is a 10" and Next64 recognizes its touchscreen, I installed LXLauncher, slitaz-icons-nuovext, modified gtk-icon-theme-name="SliTaz" by "SliTaz-nuoveXT2" in the .gtkrc-2.0 file for root / .gtkrc-2.0 for tux.
    LXLauncher works perfectly excepted it doesn't display any icons in tabs and on the desktop. In the terminal I can see:
    (lxlauncher:1234): Gtk-WARNING **: 12:34:56.789: Error loading theme icon 'image-missing' for stock: Unrecognized image file format
    Similar messages when I run apps from the terminal; ie Leafpad:
    (leafpad:1234): Gtk-WARNING **: 12:34:56.789: Error loading theme icon 'document-new' for stock: Unrecognized image file format
    and most of the icons (document-open, document-save...)
    I tryed with different icons themes, adapting the .gtkrc-2.0/.mine files each time and got the same result :(

    When I specify the name of an uninstalled/inexistant icons theme in gtk-icon-theme-name, Leafpad finds its usual icons.
    Using gtk-demo, most of the icons appear as a white square with a red cross inside whatever the icons theme used; for an uninstalled icons theme, I view all the icons inside GTK2+.

    My deduction is that GTK2+ in Next64 cannot read .png file (no problem in Rolling).

    I would just like to know if the problem comes from GTK2+, and I'll find another game, or did I forget to install a package? (but I really don't see which one)

    Here attached, the installed packages list.

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    Posted 5 years ago #
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    Aleksej
    

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    Hi Ceel,

    Currently I'm so far from the SliTaz development at all.
    SliTaz Next is still broken, even in it's basis.

    I believe that Unrecognized image file format error is related to the gdk-pixbuf package. And there some inconsistency, it's hard to say more precise...

    The key is dependencies.

    1) It may be that gdk-pixbuf should be recompiled if it's dependencies was updated, but gdk-pixbuf was compiled prior to that updates and it depends on the old versions not existed anymore.

    2) It may be that gdk-pixbuf was updated, but packages that depends on gdk-pixbuf was not updated.

    Looking thru gtk2 log I see red exclamation sign near to gdk-pixbuf in the line 72. It means that gdk-pixbuf was updated since that, i.e. gdk-pixbuf is newer than gtk2.

    But... Version of gdk-pixbuf the same — 2.38.0. The probability exists, but I don't think it's so high: you can "to recook" gtk2 package (using the button at the bottom of the gtk2 package page [but you need the SliTaz browser {TazWeb} and need to follow this link from the same cooker site, not from this forum - protection from the bots] ) and then download and install updated package manually (SliTaz Next packages on the mirror will not update).

    Sorry for dropping the SliTaz Next development.

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    Ceel
    

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    Hi Aleksej,

    Thank you for your answer. I'm going to have a look at this this week end.

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    mistfire
    

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    @Aleksej

    Does Slitaz Next64 supports multilib (ability to install and run 32-bit packages) too?

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    Ceel
    

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    Hi Aleksej,

    I followed your instructions but probably not correctly: entered http://cook.slitaz.org/next64/gtk2 in the address bar of TazWeb, connected to the gtk2 package page but didn't find any button to "recook" the package. :-/
    I tryed to recook gtk2 with cookutils, cloning wok-next but meat an error with the cooking of gtk2-demo :-(
    (tryed with other packages without any problems)

    Anyway, late in the evening yesterday I came back on the first computer on which I've tryed to install LXDE, removed all the packages to come back to a justX version, keeping only Leafpad.
    Just to confirm the problem with gtk2, I modified gtk-icon-theme-name and... new icons appeared in dialog boxes and Leafpad.
    I installed LXLauncher and @@ all worked fine!

    Maybe, doing so many tests on the second computer, I've broken something. I'm going to reinstall Next64 and let you know if I get a happy end.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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