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   HDS
   

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   I tried to fix the window-position of an application by adding something like this
   <application name="Icon Browser">
   <position force="Yes">
   <x>x-pos<\x>
   <y>y-pos<\y>
   <\position>
   <\application>
   between <applications>..<\applications>
   in the files .config/openbox/rc.xml and .config/openbox/lxde_rc.xml.
   It doesn't work for any application and any position-data but the files are read as messages about syntax errors show.
   Possibly not all openbox options are accepted by lxde (Key-Bindings work!).
   (By the way: In looking for a solution I noticed that the name-space for the xml-files is no longer accessible.)

   Posted 2 months ago #
2. 

   Ceel
   

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   Hi HDS,

   I don't know if what you want to do is possible to do.
   The only settings I know about windows position are in section <placement>
   The Application settings of the OpenBox documentation doesn' mention any settings that would allow to give the position of a window for an application. This could explain the syntax error messages you got.

   By the way: In looking for a solution I noticed that the name-space for the xml-files is no longer accessible.

   Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

   Posted 2 months ago #
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   HDS
   

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   Hi Ceel,
   many thanks for the quick reaction.
   I have found the settings I mentioned in some Internet-links and as an example in the bottom of /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml.
   Also in rc.xml is the line
   <openbox_config xmlns="http://openbox.org/3.4/rc">
   which in my undestanding defines the namespace for the used xml-tags. But I'm really not an expert in XML.

   Posted 2 months ago #
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   Ceel
   

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   Hi HDS,

   I think I found the syntax you are looking for in the OpenBox documentation (http://openbox.org/help/Contents > section rc.xml, 1.3.2 Actions): http://openbox.org/help/Actions#ShowMenu

   In my understanding, name is the name of a window, not the one of an application. Like you I'm far to be an expert with xml.

   Concerning the link in the header of the file, maybe it should be updated ;)

   Posted 2 months ago #
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   gibor
   

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   Hi HDS, Ceel,

   I'm not sure if I understand what you want to do, but to force the positioning of an app when it starts up, use this syntax:

   es xterm

   <applications><application name="xterm"><desktop>1</desktop><position force="yes"><x>25</x><y>15</y></position></application>

   </applications>

   To be inserted in /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml at the end before </openbox_config>
   after this then openbox --reload or logout/login
   Tested on current, it always runs xterm on desk1 at coordinates 25,15.

   Confirmation is obtained by opening it several times, which results in the windows overlapping.

   I hope you find it useful...
   ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

   Ciao HDS, Ceel
   Non so se ho capito bene l'intento, ma per forzare il posizionamento di una app al suo avvio vale questa sintassi:
   es xterm
   <applications><application name="xterm"><desktop>1</desktop><position force="yes"><x>25</x><y>15</y></position></application>
   </applications>
   Da inserire in /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml al termine prima di </openbox_config>
   dopo la modifca dai openbox --reload o logout/login
   testato su current esegue sempre xterm sul desk1 alle coordinate 25,15.
   La conferma si ha aprendo più volte si ottiene la sovrapposizione delle finestre.
   Spero vi sia utile...

   Posted 2 months ago #
6. 

   HDS
   

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   Hi Ceel,Gibor
   due to your contriubtions I come to the following conclusion:
   the inline documentation of rc.xml doesn't match the documentation at openbox.org!
   The inline documentation allows positioning by the application tag as Gibor and I tried; the documentation at openbox.org doesn-t mentioned the appllication tag or something comparable. It looks like a version mismatch.
   In consequence I will try to realize my requirement by some scripting using tools like xwininfo and xdotool.
   Thank You for clarification of the topic.

   Posted 2 months ago #
7. 

   gibor
   

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   In a nutshell, I would like to point out something in the post: https://forum.slitaz.org/topic/openbox-and-lxde#post-53457
   I don't know if you only did this in the topic or also in the tests, but you used a backslash instead of a slash.
   In the rc.xml file, there are lines suggesting how to modify it.
   ----------------------------------------------------------

   In due parole faccio notare un punto del post : https://forum.slitaz.org/topic/openbox-and-lxde#post-53457
   Non so se l'hai fatto solo nel topic o anche nelle prove, ma hai usato il backslash al posto dello slash.
   Nel file rc.xml ci sono le righe di suggerimento per modificarlo

   <!--
   # this is an example with comments through out. use these to make your
   # own rules, but without the comments of course.
   # you may use one or more of the name/class/role/title/type rules to specify
   # windows to match

   <application name="the window's _OB_APP_NAME property (see obxprop)"
   class="the window's _OB_APP_CLASS property (see obxprop)"
   groupname="the window's _OB_APP_GROUP_NAME property (see obxprop)"
   groupclass="the window's _OB_APP_GROUP_CLASS property (see obxprop)"
   role="the window's _OB_APP_ROLE property (see obxprop)"
   title="the window's _OB_APP_TITLE property (see obxprop)"
   type="the window's _OB_APP_TYPE property (see obxprob)..
   (if unspecified, then it is 'dialog' for child windows)">
   # you may set only one of name/class/role/title/type, or you may use more
   # than one together to restrict your matches.

   # the name, class, role, and title use simple wildcard matching such as those
   # used by a shell. you can use * to match any characters and ? to match
   # any single character.

   # the type is one of: normal, dialog, splash, utility, menu, toolbar, dock,
   # or desktop

   # when multiple rules match a window, they will all be applied, in the
   # order that they appear in this list

   # each rule element can be left out or set to 'default' to specify to not
   # change that attribute of the window

   <decor>yes</decor>
   # enable or disable window decorations

   <shade>no</shade>
   # make the window shaded when it appears, or not

   <position force="no">
   # the position is only used if both an x and y coordinate are provided
   # (and not set to 'default')
   # when force is "yes", then the window will be placed here even if it
   # says you want it placed elsewhere. this is to override buggy
   # applications who refuse to behave
   <x>center</x>
   # a number like 50, or 'center' to center on screen. use a negative number
   # to start from the right (or bottom for <y>), ie -50 is 50 pixels from
   # the right edge (or bottom). use 'default' to specify using value
   # provided by the application, or chosen by openbox, instead.
   <y>200</y>
   <monitor>1</monitor>
   # specifies the monitor in a xinerama setup.
   # 1 is the first head, or 'mouse' for wherever the mouse is
   </position>

   <size>
   # the size to make the window.
   <width>20</width>
   # a number like 20, or 'default' to use the size given by the application.
   # you can use fractions such as 1/2 or percentages such as 75% in which
   # case the value is relative to the size of the monitor that the window
   # appears on.
   <height>30%</height>
   </size>

   <focus>yes</focus>
   # if the window should try be given focus when it appears. if this is set
   # to yes it doesn't guarantee the window will be given focus. some
   # restrictions may apply, but Openbox will try to

   <desktop>1</desktop>
   # 1 is the first desktop, 'all' for all desktops

   <layer>normal</layer>
   # 'above', 'normal', or 'below'

   <iconic>no</iconic>
   # make the window iconified when it appears, or not

   <skip_pager>no</skip_pager>
   # asks to not be shown in pagers

   <skip_taskbar>no</skip_taskbar>
   # asks to not be shown in taskbars. window cycling actions will also
   # skip past such windows

   <fullscreen>yes</fullscreen>
   # make the window in fullscreen mode when it appears

   <maximized>true</maximized>
   # 'Horizontal', 'Vertical' or boolean (yes/no)
   </application>

   # end of the example
   -->

   Posted 2 months ago #
8. 

   HDS
   

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   Hi Gibor,
   that's really embarrassing. I used backslashes only in the post since I wasn't able at this time to copy something out of the virtual machine where I have run the tests. It is a human paste and copy error.
   Thank you for noticing and reporting.

   Posted 2 months ago #

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