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Yet another tazusb question

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   Mike7
   

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   Hi, Ceel.

   Tout d'abord, je te remercie infiniment ton appui, ton aide, et le temps que tu as mis dans ce fil. Ça parle au serieux de Slitaz.

   Too bad iso2exe won't work in XP. The download of iso2exe isn't working, either. Could you send me a copy of iso2exe? I'd like to try it out with some other iso files. It looks like a very interesting utility.

   I tried slitaz-3.0-firefox.iso with tazusb.exe and it did not work. Is it worthwhile for me to try tazusb again, with slitaz-3.0.iso?

   I have downloaded syslinux-5.01.zip as per your instructions. The only .bat file in it is luavs.bat. No bootusb.bat. Too bad!

   However, I will follow your instructions for a manual install with syslinux. Can I use slitaz-4.0-firefox.iso instead of slitaz-4.0.iso?

   Salut!

   Mike

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   Mike7
   

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   Bellard, can you give me a link that works for downloading iso2exe?

   Thanks?

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   http://cook.slitaz.org/cooker.cgi?download=../wok/syslinux-extra/taz/syslinux-extra-4.06/fs/usr/bin/iso2exe

   TODO:
   Update http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/d10ad51da318/syslinux/stuff/iso2exe/win32.c to create an USB key. Simply detect/select the device and copy the whole ISO file to the stick a la rawrite. Any taker ?

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   An isohybrid is an iso image that will boot in an optical drive, or can be 'dd'ed to a pendrive & be booted from that (pendrive).

   The 'flavor' (SliTaz way of calling a distro) that I used was SliTaz-4.0, which is basically all 4 compressed file systems that make up the whole installation. This particular iso will boot in different ways depending on how much ram is available.

   Because of something in the SliTaz build process for version 4, the isohybrid command failed to create hybrid isos, (I can understand how confusing this must be to a newbie).

   I think what the good people here are saying is to copy a version 3 release to your pendrive, as they where successfully created to hybrid images. Once you have an installation on your hard drive, you should be able to upgrade it to version 4, & then install any other programs that you want from the repositories.

   So, try rawrite with a SliTaz 3 iso, copy the image to your pendrive, boot up, install, upgrade, then install any other programs.

   http://sourceforge.net/projects/zoollinux/files/Utility/Rawrite%202/rawrite2.exe/download?use_mirror=freefr&download=

   I hope that works for you.

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   How to create a hybrid iso?

   On SliTaz 4.0 there is a program called isohybrid & it is part of syslinux, I believe.

   All that you have to do, at a command line/in a terminal, is this :-

   isohybrid name_of_your.iso

   then you can 'dd' (image write) it to a pendrive & it will boot up.

   (I don't know if it's on SliTaz 3.)

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   @ Mike7

   Can I use slitaz-4.0-firefox.iso instead of slitaz-4.0.iso?

   I don't think so. I never managed to install SliTaz4.0, regardless the version, like this.
   But you can do it with an iso 3.0 and then do a LiveUSB (EXT3 !) using the SliTaz tool (or tazusb in a terminal, or with TazPanel if you get-install it with tazpkg: # tazpkg -gi tazpanel).
   You can't do an upgrade of a LiveUSB 3.0 to 4.0.

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   Just found this link, might work.

   http://download.cnet.com/iso-to-usb/3028-2094_4-75578611.html?c=SEM-UK&s=fivemill&pid=dlcom_sem&aid=iso%20to%20usb%20download-&dlc=n

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   Hi, Fatmac.

   First, what is rawrite2.exe? What does it do? (Apparently it's a Windows program.)

   Secondly, should all iso files be converted to hybrids using isohybrid before trying to use any of the suggested USB-install methods (iso2exe, tazusb.exe, etc.)?

   Lastly, I have a bootable Version of Puppeee on pendrive, and I think it has an isohybrid commandline application (user\bin\isohybrid). If it doesn't work, can a separate isohybrid utility be downloaded somewhere?

   I don't think I even want to try that iso-to-usb program from CNet. I've had nothing but grief from those things.

   Cheers!

   Mike

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   Bellard-

   -- Do I need to run isohybrid on a Slitaz iso (not slitaz-4.0-loram.iso) before using iso2exe?
   -- Does iso2exe have to be put in a special place in order for it to work at the commandline?
   -- Will iso2exe’s product <something.exe> run in Windows XP? (I have no idea what the DOS version is)?

   Cheers!

   Mike

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    First, what is rawrite2.exe?

    It is an image writing program that run under MS Windows.

    Secondly, should all iso files be converted to hybrids using isohybrid before trying to use any of the suggested USB-install methods (iso2exe, tazusb.exe, etc.)?

    Some iso images are already hybrid isos, those can be written to pendrives & they will boot.
    Those that aren't hybrid isos will get a header file added into them that will make them into hybrid isos, which can then be used from pendrives.

    Lastly, I have a bootable Version of Puppeee on pendrive, and I think it has an isohybrid commandline application (user\bin\isohybrid).

    Yes you can use that to turn your SliTaz.iso into a hybrid iso. Just have your SliTaz.iso somewhere accessible from your live pendrive & in a terminal run 'isohybrid SliTaz.iso'. That can then be (image) written (with rawrite under Windows or better still using dd from your live Pupeee) to a pendrive, & that should boot up.

    Finally, Windows XP runs DOS version 7, so I don't think iso2exe will work.

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    Hi, Fatmac.

    I appreciate your help very much, but your posts re confusing me so much that I can't sleep.

    -- What is the difference between copying and dd-ing? What is the purpose of dd-ing?

    -- You wrote: "Once you have an installation on your hard drive, you should be able to upgrade it to version 4". I have no intention of putting Slitaz on my hard drive. I explained this in my first post, and again many times. I want to run it from a pendrive.

    -- It does not help when you say that rawrite.exe is an "image writing program that run under MS Windows". I need to know what it does, and why and how I should use it.

    -- You wrote:

    "On SliTaz 4.0 there is a program called isohybrid & it is part of syslinux, I believe.All that you have to do, at a command line/in a terminal, is this :-
    isohybrid name_of_your.iso then you can 'dd' (image write) it to a pendrive & it will boot up."

    How can I use isohybrid - a syslinux file in Slitaz - in a commandline if I have not yet installed Slitaz? This makes no sense to me at all. Or do you mean I should use this procedure after I have installed Slitaz 3?

    -- You wrote: "Some iso images are already hybrid isos, those can be written to pendrives & they will boot." I have extracted many Linux distro iso files to pendrives, and none of them would boot. I suppose that's why there are so many
    programs for creating bootable pendrives (most of which don't work either, like tazusb). If it were as simple as you say, then why is everyone having so much trouble and why are so many people writing special programs to make bootable pendrives?

    -- Is dd a standard Linux command? What about using dd.exe in Windows, if I can make an isohybrid in Windows?

    Cheers!

    Mike

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    For Linux users dd is a standard program, it copies blocks of a drive, not files, from one drive to another drive or to a file, that file is then an image of the drive just copied.

    You said you had a bootable pendrive with Puppeee on it that had the isohybrid program, it will also have dd.

    Put your SliTaz.iso on your Windows disk in its root (C:\), put your Puppeee pendrive into a usb slot & reboot into Puppeee.

    In a terminal in Puppeee, as the root user, mount your Windows partition, (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt).

    Change directory into your Windows computer, (cd /mnt). Type ls, you should see your SliTaz.iso file.

    Type isohybrid SliTaz.iso, you now have a hybrid SliTaz.iso.

    Put a clean pendrive into another slot. You now need to be certain of its /dev designation, type dmesg | tail, this will show you. (Likely to be /dev/sdc1)

    Once you are absolutely sure of its /dev designation, type dd if=SliTaz.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M.
    this will now write the SliTaz.iso image onto your second pendrive.

    You now have a live SliTaz pendrive.

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    Hi, Ceel.

    I had an emergency in my house: a leaky roof. So I have been too busy to reply until now.

    However, I have tried again all the methods suggested here so far except your manual install: iso2exe, tazusb, isohybrid.exe, dd.exe. None of them has worked, and I have lost many frustrating hours.

    But I am not giving up. I want Slitaz on a pendrive.

    If all else fails, maybe I can borrow a usb cd-rom from someone, put slitaz-3.0.iso on a cd, and install to pendrive from that. Yes?

    But I will try your manual install first.

    So just a few questions for now about that:

    -- Is the latest version of Syslinux the best one to use for your manual install? You know, it does not have the .bat file any more.

    -- You said: "download slitaz-4.0.iso on the stick". But you also said "don't work with SliTaz4.0". Bellard said that Slitaz 3.0 is hybris, but 4.0 is not. Should I use version 3?

    -- You said: "copy \syslinux-9.20\win32\syslinux.exe in boot\syslinux". Do you mean I should copy the whole directory structure (\syslinux-9.20\win32\syslinux.exe), or just syslinux.exe?

    -- You said: "type
    e:\boot\syslinux>syslinux -ma -d \boot\syslinux e:
    Are you sure the right command is "syslinux -ma -d" and not "syslinux -maf -d"? (The reason I ask is that the Puppeee4.4 batch file used the same syslinux command but with -maf operators.)

    If you will please answer these few questions, I will try your manual install method this week.

    Merci pour tout ton appui.

    Mike

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    Hi, Fatmac.

    I have been too busy with a leaky roof to reply until now.

    I tried all installation methods again, with no success. I even found on the Internet versions for Windows of isohybrid and dd programs (isohybrid.exe and dd.exe), installed them in Windows\system32, and ran them in a commandline on all my Slitaz versions (2, 3, and 4). Did not work. Will not boot.

    I also tried the Linux commands on my Slitaz iso's while in Puppeee 4.4. That also did not work.

    The problem (aside from anything being wrong with the iso files themselves) is that when I dd onto the pendrive, it is no longer a recognizable file system to Windows. I don't know if this should matter, so long as it boots. But it doesn't.

    I tried everything I could think of. I tried formatting the pendrive FAT32, FAT16, and ext3, before dd-ing the iso to it, but it made no difference. It still would not boot.

    I had a lot of trouble in Puppeee 4.4, too. I did some research on the isohybrid and dd programs, and it seems that they work best on FAT16. But Gparted doesn't like FAT16, at least on Puppeee 4.4. FAT16 is on the drop-down menu of available formats, but it won't do it. After I try to re-format FAT16, Gparted returns FAT32.

    So I am really stuck. No method of installing Slitaz has worked.

    What am I doing wrong?

    Cheers!

    Mike

    Posted 11 years ago #
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    Did you try http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/isohybrid.exe to convert http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/4.0/slitaz-4.0.iso and http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/dd.exe to create a boot stick ?
    > dd.exe --help
    > dd.exe --list

    Edit: isohybrid.exe is a DOS and a WINDOWS executable, dd.exe is a WINDOWS executable only.

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