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As as you I have my prefered applications (I have the same opinion as you about vi / vim ; but, like links / links2, vim is the only one console mode editor delivered as well for console mode and for graphical use. and it is able to manage insertion of text fragments opening more texts files at writing time - more it also can be used in scripts... ) so that I never did use the «flavors» of SliTaz, don't know what is it and how it operates,
But I can imagine well that a flavor for newbies (as Slitaz uses a cooking language, a «newbies big mac» music or «newbies big mac» video or «newbies big mac» graphical hobbies or «newbies big mac» home office and music would help to give newbies coming directly from windows a reasonable comfort. The question is more exactly the same as for me: how to make the «SliTaz flavors world» attractive for newbies? A step by step tutorial? A short youtube video? A «SliTaz panel» sheet showing how to continue after installing the base to install hitting 3 times to install such one «newbies big mac» pipapo?
This would also generally revalorise the «SliTaz flavors world», probably a specificity of SliTaz!
As I was engineer, I did use a long time of my life OpenOffice at works in WINDOWS (because OpenOffice can read and process the autoCAD format! In big company don't using autoCAD but for ex. DEC software being in use before Windows came, autoCAD did never be really accepted!). Why would I change if I work in Linux and return to cribble office solutions if OpenOffice is as LibreOffice without restrictions available? Ok, perhaps a reduced OO like OO4Kid's (and small home office like OO4Kid's)...
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Trixar_za:
regarding init and mdev: if BusyBox init is allready used, than that seems all ready OK, using mdev wouldn’t improve things as you clarified, so that’s not needed.
regarding the tty’s: even if they don’t take up (much) resources, it’s still best that more simplification is integrated to slitaz, so that users don’t need to learn about things that are on slitaz but which no one uses, and which can even create problems and security risks. For example, if one has (graphics) problems on slitaz, it sometimes reverts to the tty1 login screen, and unfamiliar users will be desoriented. By removing tty or using it more effectively -using only 2 ttys- (and adding more documentation) such issues can be avoided. the idea would be to then move X to the first or second tty btw, not break/remove it (as it’s currently on the 7th). I also really like the idea of an OS that is “just enough” and of which everything is actually used by the user, and I think I’ll probably not be the only one.
Willbuild:
I think we’re getting off-topic here; everyone will probably have their own favorite programs and some people need more or different programs than others. If you install slitaz frugally, this isn’t an issue; it only gets annoying if you’re using slitaz from CD, and need to download and install the same programs after every new boot. I once tried making an own slitaz with tazusb, but that failed and seems to be too complicated for most. The flavors you mention offer too little variety on the other hand and truthfully, no amount of flavors can be made to suit everyone (as mentioned above). So that can be dismissed as well. So, what does work: the scripting option. Scripts can be made to suit everyone, as everyone is able to modify them and add programs, ... Also, with minimal changes, they can often be used for other linux distro’s as well (ie changing tazpkg commands with dpkg commands, ...) However, when booting from cd, one still needs to execute these scripts with every new boot (and use bandwith for downloading), so that’s still annoying. The solution here would be to make a the slitaz cd iso’s very basic (not having much or any programs at all, and also being a non-many-in-1-flavors iso) and simply have the user install slitaz to the hard drive (frugal install). Then, using the scripts mentioned above, he can quickly install everything he likes (for example useful with slitaz linux reinstalls, or moving to new slitaz versions). New users obviously still need to figure out what programs they prefer to use so would have little benefit of the scripts at first.
I was surfing and reading the Slitaz Doc, clicked at "Recommended Software Packages" page expecting to see a list of nice packs to install and I was redirected to this page.
Where are the recommendations of packs that are already in Slitaz repositories? 
My English is not soo good, but I read some posts.
BrianPerry, TazUsb is not so dificult to use. I installed Slitaz at my 8GB usb flash drive in just 5 minutes.
I agree that including Abiword and mplayer at Slitaz ISO could be a nice idea.
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Hi Genesis
If you visit:
http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/slitaz/iso/ you will see that all major versions of SliTaz continue to stay online including all the stuff
for ex. http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/slitaz/iso/1.0/ offers the SliTaz iso vers. 0.1 and all packages in a second iso packages.iso. If you would test that old SliTaz, you would see that SliTaz did have markant preferences as SliTaz were delivered with a complete environment, somewhat between BASIC linux and Puppy linux.
all distros did become very fatter in the same time but SliTaz did avoid to become so fat as some other distro. to do that, divers component not required by all users did be removed in the next versions. as all SliTaz iso's are available, you can follow that tendence step by step if the question interest you really...
usb is a MUST for only a few systems having no hard disk...
for the community of ecologists usb as well as CD's are a catastrophal thing: tons of USB sticks pour into the trash after each falling of prices as parallel the need of more memory for bigger applications is going up. New system like micro cards are not really optimized to serve the user: black, you can write nothing on it. If you havwe 10 micro cards you loose the fast access to her contents! the only way to are certain is to mount and to unmount and we all know that it is not really optimized in linux itself ;-) ...
and tons of CDs were used only a time in the past: burned to install the new SliTaz / Ubuntu / Debian and they go directly into the trash... or not but in all case they will not be used any more and it is the same.
it is not environmentally friendly at all to promote each one of both!
I use book PC's (a bit bigger as a barebone) and laptop but I have a big hard disk on them all to avoid to have to produce such garbage...
each old CD (excepted the extremely early ones) of SliTaz can install the most actual wished version of SliTaz using the Web installation. a floppy disk loader exists (and is independant from the version of SliTaz) as well as a extremly small img / iso to do that: you never need really an other tool but can opt for such ones if...
...you prefer!
SliTaz is not a distro like Debian, Ubuntu, etc. where you must burn a CD for only one time or buy an USB stick, if you never use such one, that you will never use again next year because it as only 64 MB, or 128 MB, or 256 MB or 524 MB or ... What, forget all that, we are now using sticks with 64 GB! And? Tomorrow 64 GB will appear exactly so small as 5 .. 10 year back 64 MB (::) ! and not all hardware (and software depending of the hardware) can manage them...
Kind regards
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^ Please stick to OP's topic.... 
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simgin
I dis stick to OP's topic: a long time it was not possible to boot SliTaz easily any more as SliTaz although it is a extremly very light distro did split the rootfs.gz and in the last ones, it was not possible to concatenate them with success: It was only possible access and install the console mode part and not more (easily! probably that experts did find other ways...); only CD or USB gave easily success.
under such conditions SliTaz was a smudge distro seducing users to use more USB memories with short longevity or CD's for only one use (::) !
I regret... it was so!
and it would be regretable if it would be again the case at publishing time of the new official stable iso!
the environmental correct way (for ex. using grub install by SliTaz) to start a new session with a slitaz.iso has to be in my opinion:
title one-start-action
root (hdh0,y/partition)
kernel /zatils/bzImage pdev1=sdc3 psubdir=zatils
initrd /zatils/rootfs.gz
(why zatils and not slitaz: using this frugal start in the future partition, you can delete more easy all the other dir's marking only all dir under the "y" rang without to delete the frugal partition ;-) ...)
kind regards
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noob friendly vnc setup 
I understand VNC is probably too heavyweight for the distro but it's a fundamental feature so would be nice if it was a few button presses like installing Open SSH and starting that (epic)
Sorry for my dumb but seriously i like slitaz so much I want it for servers and stuff, sometime occasionally I can be clever but this is like if i was trying to get in my house and i had to be clever to operate the door.
So people who don't understand the hacks for this would appreciate this feature
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Regarding the changes to the boot screen shown on startup (mentioned in my very first post):
in my last post in this topic, I mentioned that adopting a frugal install approach is probably going to be better as this will solve the issue with the various preferred programs (customized to suit each individual user) better. I just came up with the idea however that due to this, a script can also be made to modify the boot screen files in the frugal install to match the new boot screen mentioned. This wouldn't have been the case with the CD, as this media is off course unwritable, and as mentioned it is also best we avoid needing to make a custom slitaz iso using tazusb (to still allow rewriting the CD).
Willbuild:
Regarding the media used: this is a non-issue. The media you use to put the slitaz iso on can be chosen yourself, the environmental impact is not an issue to be solved by the software, rather the user needs to make the choice to use as little equipment (media, ...) as possible. Regarding the usb sticks and cd's vs harddisks; actually harddisks are more polluting since they can be very badly recycled/burned (unlike usb sticks and especially CD's). Even so, using either type doesn't improve the environmental friendlyness. Instead, people just need to use as little as possible harddisks, cd's, usb-sticks, ... and keep using them untill the effectively break (rather than throwing them away and using new ones as soon as some faster or larger harddisk/usb stick, ... comes out).
BrianPerry: No, Xorg will always be on tty7. It's a built-in default (read: probably can be changed, but it might break applications (including xorg itself) that depends on the fact)
willbuild: The Core iso is already all the rootfs.gz merged into one. Why we don't use it as the default download is one of the things I've been asking since SliTaz 4
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tazpkg please
Dear Developpers,
saying thanks to You for current SliTaz 5.0 rolling, I please want to have for everybody and me supplements to the existing locale-xy-extra-4.2.tazpkg files for the following basic applications, which are not contained in them today:
xarchiver-0.5.4.tazpkg (former containing a french locale)
gqview-2.0.4.tazpkg (old, still containing a french locale)
viewnior-1.4.tazpkg (being once in the core)
gftp-2.0.19.tazpkg (old, being once in the core)
Based on the core of SliTaz rolling I built a SliTaz 5.0 plus iso with a rootfs0.gz containing these applications plus isomaster. Now I want it to be multilingual. Please make some supplements.
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