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#126 2012-03-16 07:37:49

nrama
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Registered: 2012-03-05
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

Update on the Upgrade- This morining an upgrade of 19 packages on the full install HD  led eventually to KERNEL PANIC. That included the previous  version. The boot message shows inability to find init.  Init is there I assure. BTW nice touch to the boot menu with the logo

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#127 2012-03-16 12:47:29

aniguenni
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

After upgrading from 3.0 to 4.0-RC2 on my lifebook, the battery icon shows still the same like on 3.0. and it always shows 100% charged. how can i replace this icon to the common 4.0-RC2 icon like to see on the /usr/share/icons/SliTaz/status/32 and does it shows the right state of charge after replace?

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#128 2012-03-16 21:03:18

rd.nmc
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Registered: 2012-03-04
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

hi all, sorry if I'm wrong place ...

after trying several times (kernel panic, error, etc) I also finally managed to install slitaz 4.0 RC2. wow, amazing! ... it looks very pretty and I think faster than version 3.0 ... but why when i play vlc damaged and green image? all kinds of video files (avi, flv, 3gp, wmv) ... please help ... thank you :: sorry about my english, I use google translate ::

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#129 2012-03-16 22:54:21

mojo
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

@rd.nmc

vlc is broken on slitaz-4.0 : xcb_xv generic error: no available XVideo adaptor

When it displays video its b/w when it should be color and the aspect ratio is wrong.

I suggest mplayer for now, it does a good job.

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#130 2012-03-17 12:14:43

Guest
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

1°  Slitaz 4 needs urgently a perfect media player in GTK , with no bugs and no huge dependencies

Parole : not able to read any medias

Gxine : still have ugly icons, long to boot (due to backscreen auto-load) and seems unstable

Xfmedia : rat icon, missing icons and crash if max screen

Gnome-mplayer : doesn't start and need libgpod (and then python)

Xine : ok , but ugly command bar

mplayer : ok, but ugly command bar (and video window disappear in ex-last rolling, still ?)

vlc : warning, warning need to install to much dependencies.

sm-mplayer : we don't want to install another graphical library

2° Browsers

Ice-cat could be a good alternaltive of Firefox.  Midori is too much unstable to release it in Slitaz 4 without taking the risk to present Slitaz as unstable regarding the judgment of newcomers

#131 2012-03-17 14:13:09

rd.nmc
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Registered: 2012-03-04
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

@ mojo: thank you, for now I use smplayer ...

@ moulefrite: I agree with you, Slitaz 4.0 needs urgently a perfect media player, maybe more simple but with gui, lightweight, but no bugs and does no huge dependencies too ...

slitaz 4.0 RC2:

- Midori: the windows are shut itself, as well as TazWeb Browser ...

- every time you make an internet connection with sakis3g + wvdial, ever-changing resolv.conf file permissions to -rw------- so only root access to internet connection. I finally did order # chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf to lock the resolv.conf file.

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#132 2012-03-17 17:35:26

Darjeeling
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Registered: 2012-02-06
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

Here's a proposal for a small improvement that might benefit many ...

Slitaz is among the few GNU/Linux distributions that runs entirely in RAM, not only because it is small but because it is designed that way. The advantages of this are obvious: Run from a Live CD, Slitaz is very fast and practically incorruptible, as a simple re-boot will sort out even the biggest mess (ideal for wild experiments one wouldn't dare otherwise). I guess, most of those who do not install Slitaz but run it from a customized Live CD, do so for these reasons.

The downside to all of this is of course a lack in flexibility. One has to make a new CD whenever there's an update for an important application (browser, flash player etc.). But this doesn't happen too often and a script that adds/removes packages, copies/deletes stuff, runs Tazlito and re-boots, usually doesn't take longer than 15-20 minutes including burning.

But there's still something missing in this setup: persistence! It is possible to mount a drive and restore stuff during boot-up in /etc/init.d/local.sh. But for a backup function there seems to be nothing like this. I'm using two hooks in the re-boot and the shut-down sections of /urs/bin/desktopbox (thanks, kultex) to run a backup script. But I think this is rather inelegant. It also has the disadvantage to run in the user space. A mount/unmount command in the backup script will prompt for a password, and who wants to type a password when shutting down the computer?

So, here's my proposal: why not have something like "local_up.sh" and "local_dn.sh", sitting peacefully next to each other in /etc/init.d, doing exactly what their names suggest? ("local_dn" should obviously be executed very late so there's no prompt for a password).

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#133 2012-03-17 19:10:07

RJARRRPCGP
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Registered: 2012-01-23
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

"direct rendering: Yes

OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer"

This is a known issue with Nvidia driver from Taz. It's broken. Trying to correct it causes X to crash.

And dunno about ATI/AMD. Looks like the same type of problem and thus must get the driver from the GPU maker's web site and recompile the kernel!

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#134 2012-03-18 13:31:43

tu334
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Registered: 2011-06-28
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

The newest rolling-iso is called RC3. Wouldn't it be better to give feedback to the most recent RC3 release now instead of RC2?

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#135 2012-03-18 14:06:16

aniguenni
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Registered: 2011-12-18
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

yeah, another release candidate.

let's test if this now works more stable on my lifebook?

I'm really amused about this great os.

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#136 2012-03-18 15:09:55

aniguenni
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Registered: 2011-12-18
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

but on slitaz 4.0-RC3, wich i directly downloaded to test, still having problems to get shown the correct battery state. it only appears the yellow eg. grey bar and notes "battery 100% charged". how can i resolve this and how can i change the icon to the gnome one like the others (speaker, net status ...)?

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#137 2012-03-18 17:06:44

michaelbischof
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Registered: 2012-01-20
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

Where did you get this RC3 from? And what is the difference to RC2?

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#138 2012-03-18 17:23:24

aniguenni
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

from http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/cooking/slitaz-4.0-RC3.iso .

but couldn't figure out what's the difference ecept the new integrated packages. too less time to hava a intensive look inside. and therefor i'm too newbie for this. i just like this nice os and try out, which is the stablest version for my fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7010.

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#139 2012-03-18 18:21:53

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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

Launching the rolling SliTaz4.0-RC3 LiveCD on an HP Vectra VL420 DT with a Pentium 4 CPU (1.6 GHz), 512MB of PC100 RAM, and an NVidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB video card. I was taken directly to the desktop on this version and everything so far works and does so very very fast! I have found no flaws yet. I'm making this post from the live system and I'll report back after more experimentation. Excellent work! This is one of the few LiveCD systems that recognizes my setup on boot.

#140 2012-03-18 19:22:50

michaelbischof
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Registered: 2012-01-20
Posts: 536

Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

@aniguenni

Thanks a lot for the hint to RC3, which was under my radar. This is the first RC that came up to a working Xscreen on my main machine. And it looks indeed very good.

So, @developers, what exactly did you change with this release?

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg list | grep xorg

[...]

xorg-server             1.9.5             x-window

xorg-setxkbmap          1.2.0             x-window

xorg-xauth              1.0.5             x-window

xorg-xcompmgr           1.1.4             x-window

xorg-xf86-input-evdev   2.6.0             x-window

xorg-xf86-input-synapti 1.3.0             x-window

xorg-xf86-video-intel   2.15.0            x-window

xorg-xf86-video-nv      2.1.18            x-window

xorg-xf86-video-vesa    2.3.0             x-window

[...]

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg list | grep drm

libdrm                  2.4.25            x-window

libdrm-intel            2.4.25            x-window

linux-drm               2.6.37            base-system

I am glad, but I cannot see the reason.

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#141 2012-03-18 20:49:22

Ceel
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

As JTCullen64n I've launched the RC3 LiveCD on my MSNet (Pentium IV 1.5GHz 512 M RAM / nVidia GeForce2 MX200 32 Mo), it's a real pleasure !

Unfortunately, I won't have time this week to play with it and test it.

Congratulations again to the developers. No doubt the 4.0 stable will be a great version.

Ceel.

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#142 2012-03-18 20:50:49

mojo
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

@michaelbischof

nouveau drm was removed.

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/rev/1490ced67f58

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/rev/ebfa87b63143

I only speak english :-)

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#143 2012-03-18 21:38:24

derd
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Registered: 2012-01-15
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

For those who have problems using unetbootin:

With my netbook I also cannot boot RC2 if the LiveUSB stick has been created by unetbootin,  the error message being

VFS: Please append a correct "root=" boot option

Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)

When I created the LiveStick with Lili (http://www.linuxliveusb.com), however, everything worked out nicely. At least on this machine (Samsung N145+).

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#144 2012-03-18 21:50:00

michaelbischof
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Registered: 2012-01-20
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

@mojo

Excellent. This then is the point, apparently. I tested it in the meantime on different machines, worked flawlessly. My impression is that nvidia cards had the trouble with  this drm then, other cards (I tested today one in an old HP machine) not.

Thanks to all of you for a great contribution!

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#145 2012-03-19 00:47:39

Guest
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

Using the same system I mentioned in a previous post, I wandered through Slitaz4.0-RC3 to see how the day to day things work for the average users, like my wife and kids. Changed screen resolution using the widget in the Preferences menu and with XRandr in XTerm. Changed my wallpaper with the widget in the Preferences menu. Installed Adobe Flash from XTerm and watched a couple YouTube videos and saw pretty smooth playback. Scrolled through Facebook which was very smooth - wife and kids will love that. Midori does tend to become unstable with heavy use of Flash. Installed Abiword with TazPkg and wrote a document. Listened to an MP3 with AlsaPlayer and tweaked the volume just a touch with AlsaMixer. Using PCMan FM copied files to and from a slave drive and from a USB thumb drive. Played with several of the widgets and other apps. Attempted to create a LiveCD with the wizard and, stumbling since this was my first try with Slitaz, didn't quite make it to the burning to CD. I found the md5 but no ISO was in sight. Probably my mistake there. System is very stable, looks nice, and for as far as I've fiddled, everything works very quickly and smoothly. Whatever bugs are left are hidden a little deeper than my first look at RC3. Nice job overall - astounding performance for a 40MB download!

#146 2012-03-19 00:57:46

tu334
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Registered: 2011-06-28
Posts: 19

Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

I have problems creating a live-USB using dd. It seems to be the same issue as with RC1. There was no partition table in the iso file (so it's not a hybrid-iso file). Can it be similar now?

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#147 2012-03-19 06:50:11

tvicol
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Registered: 2011-12-28
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

Just upgraded from RC2 to RC3 and all is ok.

My fossil PII Scenic Siemens-Nixdorf with NVIDIA GPU GeForce FX 5500 was never this fast.

Great job !

Regards,

Tibi

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#148 2012-03-19 09:39:24

Guest
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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

This isn't a major bug and I haven't really looked into it further yet but, at some point, probably after I installed NVidia non-free driver 173.x, I noticed that the icon for the TazPkg manager on the right side of the lower panel, has disappeared. I can still get to it through the System Tools menu though. BTW, for those with a system similar to mine, GLXGears with above NVidia drivers, reports about 7000 frames/5sec or about 1400 fps, the highest I've ever seen it on my setup.

#149 2012-03-19 10:24:29

arsaber
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Registered: 2011-04-14
Posts: 52

Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

@JTCullen64 : the icon for the Tazpkg manager on the right side of the lower panel is a desktop notification that there are upgrades of your packages available on the repos. Once your system up-to-date, it disappears.

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#150 2012-03-19 13:55:45

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Re: SliTaz 4.0-RC2 - Feedback

Unfortunatly, Midori 0.4.4 crashes with hotmail. 

You can forget Midori for Slitaz 4

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