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#1 2011-05-19 14:03:55

blake
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Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

After installing the proprietary ATI drivers on my Dell Inspiron 1501, I lost the bar at the top with the 'start' menu. I've recently fixed the lack of native widescreen resolution on here, and this is my next hurdle to jump. I've searched the forum, and can't find anything related. Anyone know how to get this back?

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#2 2011-05-19 14:59:05

Trixar_za
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Weird question, but is openbox or pcmanfm's desktop starting properly?

You can see if Openbox is working by right clicking on the desktop and you can see if pcmanfm's desktop managment is working because you have icons on the desktop.

If that's the case, then it's just lxpanel not starting. This sometimes happens to me too, which is why I wrote lxpanel into my openbox config. Right click the desktop--->Openbox--->Openbox menu and add the following where you want it:`  <item label="Lxpanel">

    <action name="Execute"><command>lxpanel</command></action>

  </item>` I have mine under my favorite applications. It's a quick and easy way to start lxpanel if it crashes.

If however Openbox is not starting, then somewhere along the boot path it's not being run. The best place would be to check in the /etc/slim.conf or within your home folder's .xsession file. It might also be a corrupt or missing /home/yourUsername/config/openbox/autostart.sh OR missing /home/yourUsername/config/lxpanel/default/config file.

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#3 2011-05-19 15:12:39

blake
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Thanks for the reply.

Openbox is running, I have the right click menu, and icons on the desktop.

Running lxpanel from terminal (which I had tried already) says this:

There is already an instance of LXPanel.  Now to exit

I still have no start menu at the top. The taskbar at the bottom with the clock and desktop switcher is there though.

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#4 2011-05-19 15:23:47

Trixar_za
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Try killall lxpanel and try starting it from the terminal again. Not sure if that will help, but it's worth a shot.

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#5 2011-05-19 15:27:20

blake
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Nope, that doesn't help. I've rebooted multiple times as well.

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#6 2011-05-19 16:33:12

arsaber
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Check your ~/.config/lxpanel/default/panels. You should have 2 files : bottom and top. If you don't, you can cp the top file located in /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/default/panels

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#7 2011-05-19 16:40:56

blake
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Aha! For future reference too, it wasn't called top, it was called panel. Either way, that worked splendidly. Thanks a lot, I'm really loving how quickly everyone is helping.

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#8 2011-08-26 20:41:27

steve1234
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

I'm having same issue as Blake.  I've tried copying the "panel" file as arsaber suggested but it doesn't seem to help.

The error message is:

** (lxpanel:2356): DEBUG: cache file_name = /root/.cache/menus/8ee9cbaa19088694876f62889f53d6f Floating point exception

Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Steve

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#9 2011-08-27 16:53:42

xoanan
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Having the same issue as steve1234;  The error message is identical. 

Thanx in advancec

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#10 2011-08-27 17:45:05

Trixar_za
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Providing us with the error doesn't help us much. Any number of things could have caused it and just because you get this error doesn't mean everybody else gets it.

You need to provide the steps you took to get the error. This includes as which user you logged in, your system specs, the SliTaz version you're using, if it's off the LiveCD or if you installed it. Yes these things matter because it helps us solve the problem.

What you could do is try starting a terminal (right click and select terminal from favourite applications), doing su to root (enter su - press enter/return and enter the root password) and then typing rm /root/.cache/menus/8ee9cbaa19088694876f62889f53d6f or whatever the error says the file_name is.

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#11 2011-08-29 11:11:57

steve1234
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Thanks Trixar. Further info:

Currently running SliTaz 3.0 from LiveCD with the default user (Tux).

Lxpanel doesn't load at startup. The error I mentioned above was caused when I tried to start it manually (by typing "lxpanel" from a terminal window). When the error is thrown, the start panel (or, at least, a grey bar where the start panel should be) is briefly shown and then vanishes again.

As with blake (above), SliTaz initially runs with a lower-than-native resolution which was fixed by following the steps at http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:xorg-xvesa#using-xorg-vendor-specific-drivers (ie # tazpkg get-install linux-agp, # tazpkg get-install linux-drm, # tazhw setup ati). Having said that, this might be a red herring as the 'start' bar doesn't show even at the original (bad) resolution.

Unlike Blake, I'm not sure lxpanel is running at all as "killall lxpanel" just says "no process killed".

I've tried the rm command you suggested. The command works ok but doesn't seem to help. When running lxpanel again it throws the same error.

The computer is an old Sony Vaio PCG-FR315B with Celeron 2.60GHz, 704Mb RAM and an ATI Radeon IGO 354M graphics.

Thanks, Steve

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#12 2011-08-29 23:17:38

xoanan
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

My issue appears to have resolved itself.  I am not sure what happened; I will check the logs and get back to you

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#13 2011-09-11 07:36:51

mreevimus
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

I will admit I am a super noob at least to the world of Linux. I am a big fan of slitaz 3.0 but i have lost my task bar at the bottom. I have found the panel file at /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/default/panels but I don't know how to view or check ~/.config/lxpanel/default/panels. I even tried to blind copy panel to this location but I am obviously missing something in the syntax or I am supposed to do it somewhere other than terminal. I am running this from the CD. I cant even figure out how to install this to the hard drive as I can't get to the installer. can someone please tell me how to get it back please.

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#14 2011-09-11 15:00:09

mojo
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

@Mark

The menu,task bar,panel are missing:

From the live cd, the iso or burned livecd is bad.

From an old install, do a new install of slitaz.

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#15 2011-09-11 16:21:15

mreevimus
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

I am getting a little bit frustrated. I booted my live cd on another newer laptop and everything looked fine. I went ahead and downloaded a different live cd "slitaz-3.0-loram.iso    2010-Jul-05 08:07:21    37.0M    application/octet-stream" i created another disk and booted this in my older laptop. Again no taskbar. I am obviously missing something. the laptop is a Dell Latitude CPX PIII Processor, 256MB RAM, 12GB Harddrive

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#16 2011-09-11 17:09:44

mreevimus
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Without the taskbar how do i do a new install of slitaz

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#17 2011-09-11 17:41:19

mojo
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Right click desktop/Openbox menu/Favorite Applications/Terminal

Xterm:

su/password:root/slitaz-installer

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#18 2011-09-12 00:51:24

mreevimus
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

I am giving up on slitaz 3.0 I am tired of fighting it to just work. After three days of fulling with it I say it is not ready for prime time

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#19 2012-04-13 22:28:02

pmassch
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

I have had the same issue (start menu task bar and tray gone) in slitaz 4.0

it occured after adding a tool in a panel.

probably, lxpanel use default config when config is missing, but no longer use default when you create something

you can fix this by erasing your lxpanel config

rm -rf ~/.config/lxpanel/$(id -un)/*

or if you have one of your two panel avaible, reconstruct it using right click and add a new panel

hope this helps

Regards

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#20 2013-04-21 18:57:33

csantos
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

Guys,

I'm new with Slatiz and have many years that I don't work with Linux. Now I need a very tiny distro to build some thin clients for my wife's school. All that she needs is a FIrefox Browser and a Citrix Receiver (they use XenApp and XenDesktop).

I installed Slatz 4 and it's working great! But Now I'm having the same issue about the Start Menu. If I costumize anything, like adding or remove a application button, it works. But when I do logoff and log again the Start Menu Task gone!

When I installed I created a "thinclient" user, and is the user that I'm making the costumization. When I access the ~/.config/lxpanel I have a "slitaz" folder. I tried to mv to "thinclient", copy to "default", and also deleted all content in ~/.config/lxpanel but isn't working.

Any type will be very helpful!

Regards,

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#21 2013-04-21 19:24:50

emgi
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

It is a known issue in 4.0 at least. When you edit one panel, the other one dispears upon the next login unless you edit it as well. To bring back both panels for user thinclient:

rm /home/thinclient/.config/lxpanel/slitaz/panels/*

Logout/in X session

When changing something in the top panel, you can for example change the height (in pixels) for the bottom one. When you make a change to both panels before logoff/logon you will not have the issue.

/emgi

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#22 2013-04-21 20:05:46

csantos
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Re: Start Menu Task Tray Bar Gone

emgi,

Thank you for reply me, my friend! I will be waiting the fix for the issue, and use the workaround that you told me.

It's my first time using Slatiz, but I have to say that I LOVED this little guy!

smile

Regards from Brazil,

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