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• Started 5 years ago by krystoo
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   krystoo
   

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   Bonjour, je reviens vers slitaz, mais j'ai que des problèmes :

   1. iron et seamonkey s'installent, mais ne se lance pas, midorin rien ne vas avec mes habitudes en navigateur, firefox 17 médiocre avec startpage, résolu par firefox 64.

   2. plank qui est plus léger que cairo n'y est pas dans les dépots : Pourquoi ?

   3. j'aimerais et c'est le point le plus important : pouvoir décompresser du tar.gz, mais faut croire qu'il n'y a rien pour cela !
   Comment on fait ?

   Et aussi j'aimerais pouvoir installer du .deb : comment on fait ?

   http://hg.slitaz.org/tazpkg/raw-file/tip/doc/tazpkg.en.html = veut obligatoirement ouvrir du .html, pourtant firefox le gère. De plus pour moi c'est du charabia.

   Grand merci par avance pour une aide car j'ai perdu trop de mois à attendre une aide slitaz = jamais venu. Il est devenu très urgent qu'au final je puis-ce décompresser du tar.gz et de pouvoir installer du .deb

   Posted 5 years ago #
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   Aleksej
   

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   Hi krystoo,

   1. I can't understand the question.

   2. Here too. Plank which lighter than Cairo? They are different sort of software. AFAIK Plank is something like LXPanel, and Cairo is 2D graphics library.

   3. Read the help of tar command:

   tar --help
   
   Command line: tar --help 
   
   BusyBox v1.27.2 (2018-05-26 11:35:36 UTC) multi-call binary.
   
   Usage: tar -[cxtZzJjahmvO] [-X FILE] [-T FILE] [-f TARFILE] [-C DIR] [FILE]...
   
   Create, extract, or list files from a tar file
   
   Operation:
   	c	Create
   	x	Extract
   	t	List
   	f	Name of TARFILE ('-' for stdin/out)
   	C	Change to DIR before operation
   	v	Verbose
   	Z	(De)compress using compress
   	z	(De)compress using gzip
   	J	(De)compress using xz
   	j	(De)compress using bzip2
   	a	(De)compress using lzma
   	O	Extract to stdout
   	h	Follow symlinks
   	m	Don't restore mtime
   	exclude	File to exclude
   	X	File with names to exclude
   	T	File with names to include

   Use it:

   tar -xf /insert/path/to/your.tar.gz

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   Convert .deb -> .tazpkg
   tazpkg can help you:

   tazpkg help convert
   
   convert, c
   ===================================================================================
   Convertit un paquet tiers en paquet SliTaz (*.tazpkg).
    
   Formats de paquet supportés :
    
     *  Debian (*.deb, *.udeb)
     *  RPM (*.rpm)
     *  Slax (*.sb)
     *  Puppy (*.sfs, *.pet)
     *  Slackware (*.tgz)
     *  NuTyX (*.cards.tar.xz)
     *  Arch Linux / Alpine Linux (*.apk, *.pkg.tar.gz, *.pkg.tar.xz)
     *  OpenWrt (*.ipk, *.opk)
     *  0Linux (*.spack)
     *  paldo (*.tar.bz2)
     *  Void (*.xbps)
     *  Tinycore (*.tce, *.tcel, *.tcem, *.tcz)
   
     # tazpkg convert fichier-paquet-tiers

   Install .tazpkg

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   http://hg.slitaz.org/tazpkg/raw-file/tip/doc/tazpkg.en.html

   Examine the URI:

   curl -I http://hg.slitaz.org/tazpkg/raw-file/tip/doc/tazpkg.en.html
   HTTP/1.1 200 Script output follows
   Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:46:54 GMT
   Server: Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.29 OpenSSL/1.0.0g PHP/5.2.17
   ETag: 1543256781.0
   Content-Disposition: inline; filename="tazpkg.en.html"
   Content-Length: 38180
   Content-Type: application/binary
   Vary: Accept-Encoding,User-Agent

   It's simple. Attencion to the Content-Type: application/binary. Any web browser can't show such files and so it propose to download it.

   ".html" at the end don't mean automatically that this is HTML page. So, URI with ".php" can give you GIF picture and so on...

   Posted 5 years ago #
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   krystoo
   

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   Merci, mais je ne comprend pas l'anglais. Pour du tar.gz sous ubuntu on extrait très simplement, hors ici extraire n'y ai pas. Ensuite l'aide n'est pas traduite en français.

   Posted 5 years ago #
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   Aleksej
   

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   I don't understand French. But online translators are exists :-D

   Posted 5 years ago #
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   krystoo
   

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   Oui c'est ce que je fait, mais encore une fois par clic droit de souris extraire le taz.gz n'y est pas.

   Yes, that's what I did, again by clicking on the right mouse to extract the taz.gz there is not.

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   krystoo
   

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   Tempi, je crois que je vais abandonné définitivement slitaz. De plus il serait basait sur debian ? Et au final ne gère pas les deb et tar.gz aussi facilement. Dommage que ça ne soit pas resté aussi simple.
   Tous les pc's que je voulais mettre en slitaz (au moins 3) vont finir sur lubuntu 18.10 soit lxqt si ça passe bien.
   En tout cas merci quand même pour le départ de l'aide. Bonne continuation à vous.

   Posted 5 years ago #
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   HGT
   

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   Just install GNU tar:
   # tazpkg -gi tar
   and the help is available in french.

   Posted 5 years ago #
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   krystoo
   

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   Bonjour, merci pour l'info @HGT.

   J'aurais une machine où Slitaz à pu s'installer quand bons nombres comme lubuntu n'ont pas voulu.
   Sur cette machine j'ai mis Audacity, mais la je vais créer un autre poste.

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   krystoo
   

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   Bonjour,
   j'ai installer visiblement un paquet.tar.gz
   Au final j'ai un dossier paquet
   Comment on fait pour le lancer ?

   Posted 5 years ago #
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    HGT
    

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    Bonjour krystoo,

    by entering the command
    tazpkg -gi tar
    with system administrator privileges (indicated by # in my previous message), the SliTaz package tar-1.30.tazpkg from the cooking repository, containing GNU tar should have been installed.
    The symbolic link /bin/tar -> busybox is then replaced by a real file /bin/tar, that can be executed by any user.

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    HGT
    

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    Bonjour krystoo,

    by mistake I must have checked for localised message texts on Linux mint, not on SliTaz.
    The tar package in the SliTaz repository does not contain any message files /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/tar.mo.
    As an apology for that misinformation I created a package, containing GNU tar and a french message file (see attachment).
    Transfer this to your system and install it with

    # tazpkg -r tar
    # tazpkg -i tar-1.31.tazpkg
    

    PS: I am sorry, attaching the package failed, because it is too large.

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    Aleksej
    

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    Le paquet contenant les traductions pour "tar-1.31" est ici:
    http://cook.slitaz.org/next/get/tar-lang-1.31-any.tazpkg

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    HGT
    

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    Good afternoon Aleksej,

    once more you have been faster than I.

    Because in SliTaz 5, packages in general seem not to contain messages files, I dared not modifying the package in the cooking repository, but created a GNU tar package in my private wok, adding language support for french and german only, just to help krystoo.
    Meanwhile I succeeded in transfering this package to tank.slitaz.org.
    It is to be found with people.slitaz.org/~HGT/.

    All messages files in SliTaz 5 seem to be contained in packages locale-language.
    Is that the rule in SliTaz 5?

    In SliTaz next you seem to use another concept:
    A package may have an additional package, containing all messages files from the source.

    But consider, that these language packages may become very large and for most users contain many useless languages.
    This might be contrary to the SliTaz principle: keep it small and simple.

    By the way, I scrutinised cook.slitaz.org/next/ and found it marvellous what you developed, in spite of your statement, that you were no developer (see people.slitaz.org/~lexeii).

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    Aleksej
    

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    Hi Hans-Günter,

    > Meanwhile I succeeded in transfering this package to tank.slitaz.org.

    Yes, people.slitaz.org is good place for your packages.

    > All messages files in SliTaz 5 seem to be contained in packages locale-language.

    No, not all, of course. locale-* contains translations only for selected packages - packages installed on the LiveCD. You can find a list here: http://cook.slitaz.org/next/slitaz-i18n/stuff/locale-pack.conf (AFAIK it's identical to that from SliTaz Cooking).

    > But consider, that these language packages may become very large and for most users contain many useless languages.

    Yes, I know, I know. These's no good solution yet. As far as we use package manager [to manage our packages] we should use packages. These packages may contain no translations (to be smaller), or all available translations (big, I see no point in it), or selected set of translations (maybe the best solution). Look the link again - SliTaz provides support for 32 locales/languages, and only these locales will be packed into packages "*-lang" in the SliTaz Next (since now).

    Packing each translation into its own package isn't the solution at all.

    Another sort of solution is to make tool which will download translations from the cook.slitaz.org for you based on your locale and on your packages list. I created this tool few years ago and it is called tramis (tramys, tramys-client, tramys-server) but development is discontinued. And one small "cons" for this solution: package manager don't know anything about these external files...

    > This might be contrary to the SliTaz principle: keep it small and simple.

    All things in this world are relative :-)

    > ... and found it marvellous ... you were no developer ...

    Thank you!
    And I still don't learned any programmatical language other than Shell script :-)
    Am I a developer at all? :-) Well, maybe.

    By the way, found something interesting about SliTaz a hour ago: click.

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