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• Started 12 years ago by Linux4Morocco
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   michaelbischof
   

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   @Trixar_za: first thanks a lot for your work! Whether German or Tamazight does not matter much: the ones who laugh at the end are those who were skeptical, Linux4Morocco?
   If the analysis of you is correct these screenlets are nice-looking eye-candy, but of lousy technical quality.

   Just a question: technically one would need to collect all those dependencies outside of Slitaz, put them into one ,,pot", link them so that no single dependency points to the outside system and then pack it as a kind of ,,AppRun"? With LibreOffice it works, it tried some more of them on Slitaz and Mandriva but those did not work. - Then it is bullshit: what sense does an AppRun have if it runs only on Ubuntu, where it would run even normally installed? I accept the basic idea for => certain software. But software that would need certain graphic cards would not fit into such a concept. Right?

   Linux4Morocco: now the ball is in your part of the field, yes? I am curious but I guess it would be lost time to try to finish it.

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   Darjeeling
   

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   I don't understand why anyone would want such toyish gimmicks anyhow. Slitaz isn't Ubuntu and it shouldn't try to be. I think, at the moment it would be far more sensible to concentrate on the engine room instead of the color of the deck chairs and the piano in the cocktail bar.

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   Trixar_za
   

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   @michaelbischof I semi-pack my packages like that. I try to include all the packages not included with SliTaz by default and have it download the rest. If there are too many dependencies, I sometimes just pack some of the static requirements into the package itself, while leaving the dynamic stuff to be downloaded. My Sakis3g package is like that.

   I tried converting screenlets and it couldn't even find the libraries it installed... :/

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   michaelbischof
   

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   ,,I tried converting screenlets and it couldn't even find the libraries it installed." - Lousy then, yes?

   @Trixar_za:
   ,, I sometimes just pack some of the static requirements into the package itself, while leaving the dynamic stuff to be downloaded."
   Just my polish my limited IT-understanding: this would theoretically mean that in case you convert it to *.deb or *.rpm it could as well run on Debian, Ubuntu or Mandriva?

   (You know why I ask for that: keyword is ,,texlive"...)

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   Trixar_za
   

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   No, static requirements mean they don't change or will break the moment I use my package on SliTaz cooking or the future SliTaz 4. Packages like linux-dialup changes with the linux version, so it needs to be downloaded so the user always has a fresh copy.

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   Trixar_za
   

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   For those wondering if I REALLY did it, here's the error I can't get past:
   

   brenton@trixarian:~$ screenlets
   No GNOME keyring, there will be problems with account options
   GConf python module not found. GConf settings backend is disabled.
   Traceback (most recent call last):
     File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 1342, in <module>
       app = ScreenletsManager()
     File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 88, in __init__
       self.create_ui()
     File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 300, in create_ui
       w.set_icon_list(icontheme.load_icon("screenlets", 24, 0))
   glib.GError: Icon 'screenlets' not present in theme

   This is after I installed python, python-xdg, dbus-python, beautifulsoup, pycairo and pygtk.
   I also converted over python-mulitprocess, python-wnck and python-rsvg (and fixing the horrible way debian packages python files so it would WORK with our python) to try and get this piece of crap to work.

   I'm pretty much done trying now :|

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   michaelbischof
   

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   @Linux4Morocco: forgive me as the following question changes a bit from the topic of your thread!

   In case I want to install ,,texlive" on Mandriva 2008.1 it states:

   To satisfy dependencies, the following package(s) also need to be installed:

   - bison-2.3-5mdv2008.1.i586
   - libkpathsea4-2007-20.r6295.2mdv2008.1.i586
   - libt1lib1-5.1.2-1mdv2008.1.i586
   - libteckit0-2.2.1-4mdv2008.1.i586
   - libXaw3d7-1.5E-8mdv2008.1.i586
   - perl-Tie-Watch-1.2-2mdv2008.1.noarch
   - perl-Tk-804.028-8mdv2008.1.i586
   - t1lib-config-5.1.2-2mdv2008.1.i586
   - tcsh-6.14-5mdv2008.1.i586
   - texlive-fonts-2007-20.r6295.2mdv2008.1.i586
   - texlive-texmf-2007-24.r6295.3mdv2008.1.noarch
   - texlive-texmf-common-2007-24.r6295.3mdv2008.1.noarch
   - texlive-texmf-dvips-2007-24.r6295.3mdv2008.1.noarch
   - texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-24.r6295.3mdv2008.1.noarch

   399MB of additional disk space will be used.

   In case one would want to make a ,,texlive"-program in Slitaz one would need to put all those packages into it as well, or make them anew in case they do not exist under Slitaz? In case a special version of Perl is used for it, or Python, one must put it into this ,,pot" as well to make it platformindependent? Or in case it should run under all circumstances in Slitaz 2.0, 3.0 and cooking?

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   Trixar_za
   

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   Just because Mandriva (which has now slit into two groups) says you need all those dependencies, doesn't mean you need all those dependencies. Also, it's not a 'special version' of perl, it's an perl extension so it can use TCL/TK. I doubt this is really needed... Stop hijacking threads to talk about this :/

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   michaelbischof
   

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   ;-)
   For my defense: I excused myself for that - and we talk about the problem of dependencies => in general!
   My vote now would be against screenlets: in case nobody can know what must be additionally incorporated to make it run under Slitaz it does not seem to be goog idea.
   In case of ,,R" it is different: a very widespread graphic program used anyway by many people is now available under Slitaz. So those people can decide to install Slitaz now. That is progress. In case of screenlets I cannot recognize the price-expenses relationship.

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    Linux4Morocco
    

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    That's what I get when I try to lunch it , Damn I installed all the dependencies exept one, I'll try to resolve that later .

    sh-4.2# screenlets-manager
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 1342, in <module>
    app = ScreenletsManager()
    File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 88, in __init__
    self.create_ui()
    File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 300, in create_ui
    w.set_icon_list(icontheme.load_icon("screenlets", 24, 0))
    glib.GError: L'icône « screenlets » n'est pas présente dans le thème
    sh-4.2#

    Posted 12 years ago #
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    pankso
    

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    We may got Screenlets work

    Get and install: http://people.slitaz.org/~pankso/packages/screenlets-0.1.6.tazpkg
    Run as root: gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache
    Then start the manager.

    

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    Trixar_za
    

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    Still doesn't solve the problem for a SliTaz 3 user :/

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    Trixar_za
    

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    Nope, nothing I try can make it work on SliTaz 3. If you want screenlets, you need to move to cooking/rolling ;)

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    michaelbischof
    

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    @Trixar_za: to keep this thread human-readable - would it be possible to try in short to explain why it might not work in Slitaz 3, technically?

    And it does not work in cooking:
    I installed it to a brand new boot of cooking. 33 packages were installed- and then I started it first as user root and then as user tux.
    Attention: the package gnome-keyring 2.32.1 x-window is installed!

    The result is shown here:

    root@slitaz:~# tazpkg install screenlets-0.1.6.tazpkg
    Tracking dependencies for : screenlets
    ================================================================================
    Missing: python
    Missing: pygtk
    Missing: python-xdg
    Missing: beautifulsoup
    Missing: gnome-python-desktop
    ================================================================================
    5 missing package(s) to install.

    Extracting screenlets... [ OK ]
    Extracting the pseudo fs... (lzma) [ OK ]
    Installing screenlets... [ OK ]
    Removing all tmp files... [ OK ]
    ================================================================================
    screenlets (0.1.6) is installed.

    root@slitaz:~# gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache
    root@slitaz:~# screenlets &
    root@slitaz:~# No GNOME keyring, there will be problems with account options
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 34, in <module>
    import screenlets
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/screenlets/__init__.py", line 125, in <module>
    import services
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/screenlets/services.py", line 27, in <module>
    import dbus
    ImportError: No module named dbus

    Started as user tux:

    [1]+ Done(1) screenlets

    tux@slitaz:~$ screenlets &
    tux@slitaz:~$ No GNOME keyring, there will be problems with account options
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 34, in <module>
    import screenlets
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/screenlets/__init__.py", line 125, in <module>
    import services
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/screenlets/services.py", line 27, in <module>
    import dbus
    ImportError: No module named dbus

    Linux4morocco: note please! The fact that I am sceptical about the sense this screenlets-idea makes does not mean that I do not support! ;-)
    With my only ressources: installing, checking and giving feedback...

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    michaelbischof
    

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    Ok, I got it to run now. I had to install quite some packages more, including icedtea (Java).

    Now I can start it as user tux but I cannot see any functionality. Apparently one has to install some ready screenlets - but where to get them, and what for? => @Linux4Morocco: your task now!

    Feedback:

    tux@slitaz:~$ screenlets &
    tux@slitaz:~$ No GNOME keyring, there will be problems with account options
    Cannot create /tmp/screenlets-manager.py.log logfile. Using STDERR instead.
    File /home/tux/.config/screenlets/config.ini not found
    Auto-create autostart dir ...
    Create autostarter for: Screenlets Daemon
    Error in ScreenletsManager.connect_daemon: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.screenlets.ScreenletsDaemon was not provided by any .service files
    Trying to launching screenlets-daemon ...
    No GNOME keyring, there will be problems with account options
    no daemon yet
    checking for running daemon again ...
    DAEMON FOUND - Ending timeout
    DAEMON FOUND!
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 903, in button_clicked
    subprocess.Popen(["xdg-open", screenlets.THIRD_PARTY_DOWNLOAD])
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 679, in __init__
    errread, errwrite)
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 1228, in _execute_child
    raise child_exception
    OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 903, in button_clicked
    subprocess.Popen(["xdg-open", screenlets.THIRD_PARTY_DOWNLOAD])
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 679, in __init__
    errread, errwrite)
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 1228, in _execute_child
    raise child_exception
    OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-manager.py", line 903, in button_clicked
    subprocess.Popen(["xdg-open", screenlets.THIRD_PARTY_DOWNLOAD])
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 679, in __init__
    errread, errwrite)
    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 1228, in _execute_child
    raise child_exception
    OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory

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