not a support question
hitsware
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@ toto ...... ext3 ......... I want the usb stick to be persistent and work on any PC
I may try ext2 .... any differance you think ?
At one time I had Slitaz boot on both PCs with FAT32 but evedently there is no simple
way to get persistence . (keep a couple of apps (Wine and Minicom))
The installer worked so well with the HD, I'm surprised at the complication with the
stick .............
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Ceel
offlineAdministrator
OK hitsware,
According to your las post, there are 3 HD on the computer: sda, sdb and sdc. So, on this PC GRUB sees your USB key as the 4th HD.
To make your it booting on it you have to replace (hd1,0) by (hd3,0) and GRUB will find vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz.
If it works on this computer, this means your key is OK and your initial problem comes from the Atom.
But, to boot on Atom you'll have to modify the menu.lst again. I propose to create a second entry in your menu.lst; copy paste the lines below in it. In this way you'll be able to boot on the old PC as well as on the Atom (as soon as we'll have find where the problem is on Atom of course)
# /boot/grub/menu.lst: GRUB boot loader configuration.
# By default, boot the first entry.
default 0
# Boot automatically after 8 seconds.
timeout 8
# Change the colors.
color yellow/brown light-green/black
# Graphical splash image.
splashimage=/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
# For booting SliTaz from Atom
title SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37) full install on USB stick, from Atom
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/sdb1 quiet
# For booting SliTaz from old PC
title SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37) full install on USB stick, from old PC
root (hd3,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/sdd1 quiet
Ceel
offlineAdministrator
Then
# For booting SliTaz from old PC
title SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37) full install on USB stick, from old PC
root (hd2,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/sdc1 quiet
hitsware
offlineMember
At least something different :) Now I get:
GRUB4DOS 0.4.4 2012-04-09, memory 572k/2020M menu end: 0x4918A
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a
device/filename. ]
grub>
Then if I enter 'boot' I get:
kernal must be loaded before booting
Ceel
offlineAdministrator
Hello hitsware,
I've made a mistake: when starting GRUB from a USB stick, the stick will always be seen as hd0 by GRUB. The good syntaxes for menu.lst in /boot/grub of the stick is
# /boot/grub/menu.lst: GRUB boot loader configuration.
# By default, boot the first entry.
default 0
# Boot automatically after 8 seconds.
timeout 8
# Change the colors.
color yellow/brown light-green/black
# Graphical splash image.
splashimage=/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
# For booting SliTaz from Atom
title SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37) full install on USB stick, from Atom
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/sdb1 rootdelay=5 quiet
# For booting SliTaz from old PC
title SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37) full install on USB stick, from old PC
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/sdc1 rootdelay=5 quiet
Note I've added an instruction rootdelay=5. This lets time to the kernel to find the stick or you could have a kernel panic at boot.
Ceel
offlineAdministrator
default 0 in menu.lst means that GRUB will boot with the first entry (SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37) full install on USB stick, from Atom) if you don't hit a key within the 8 seconds (timeout 8) after the menu displays.
To point automatically the second entry of the menu change default 0 to default 1
To increase/decrease the time to start automatically, change the value of timeout 8. To suppress the automatic start, comment the line with #:# timeout 8
To start SliTaz on the old PC, select SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37) full install on USB stick, from old PC with the [Down] key.
You cannot start SliTaz with the same entry on the 2 computers because their hardware are different: Atom has only 1 HD, sda for the kernel, so the stick will be sdb. The old computer has 2 HD, sda and sdb, so the stick will be sdc for the kernel; that's why you need 2 entries in menu.lst.
hitsware
offlineMember
(Old PC) Only the Atom entry shows up....counts down......then does nothing
(Atom PC) Same as before....ignores USB and boots from HD
Seems we're getting nowhere :( Maybe there is a reason no one suggests
full install to USB ? Though the TazPanel sorta implies it will work ...
(As do some Ubuntu (but then that's with Ubuntu) forum inputs.) ????
Are you trying any of the advices you are helping me with ?
Ceel
offlineAdministrator
Yes you can do a full install on USB. I've done my first full install (SliTaz 3.0) on a 1GB stick a few years ago and install SliTaz 4.0 on a 2GB stick in 2012 April.
I now use this last key pricipally to boot SliTaz on my professional computer; I'm not authorized to install anything on it so I use the boot loader of the key to launch frugal install. Here is my menu.lst:
default=0
title SliTaz rolling 19/01/2014 (kernel 3.2.53, frugal install on sda2)
kernel (hd1,1)/frugal/rolling/vmlinuz-3.2.53-slitaz rw root=/dev/null kmap=fr-latin1 vga=normal
initrd (hd1,1)/frugal/rolling/rootfs4.gz (hd1,1)/frugal/rolling/rootfs3.gz (hd1,1)/frugal/rolling/rootfs2.gz (hd1,1)/frugal/rolling/rootfs1.gz
title SliTaz 4.0 core (kernel 2.6.37, frugal install on sda2)
kernel (hd1,1)/frugal/4.0/bzImage rw root=/dev/null kmap=fr-latin1 vga=normal nomodeset sound=noconf screen=text
initrd (hd1,1)/frugal/4.0/core/rootfs.gz
title SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37, full install on sdb1 from S752)
root(hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/sdb1 kmap=fr-latin1 vga=normal rootdelay=5 nomodeset screen=text
title SliTaz 4.0 loram (kernel 2.6.37, frugal install on sda2)
kernel (hd1,1)/frugal/4.0/bzImage rw root=/dev/null kmap=fr-latin1 vga=normal nomodeset sound=noconf screen=text
initrd (hd1,1)/frugal/4.0/loram/rootfs.gz
title SliTaz 4.0 core (kernel 2.6.37, from iso on sda2)
map --mem --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 (hd1,1)/frugal/4.0/core/slitaz-4.0-core.iso (hd32)
map --hook
kernel (hd32)/boot/bzImage rw root=/dev/null vga=normal
initrd (hd32)/boot/rootfs.gz
title SliTaz 3.0 Xorg (kernel 2.6.30.6, frugal install on sda2)
kernel (hd1,1)/frugal/3.0/vmlinuz-2.6.30.6-slitaz rw root=/dev/null kmap=fr-latin1 vga=normal
initrd (hd1,1)/frugal/3.0/rootfs.gz
title SliTaz 2.0 (kernel 2.6.25.5, frugal install on sda2)
kernel (hd1,1)/frugal/2.0/vmlinuz-2.6.25.5-slitaz rw root=/dev/null kmap=fr-latin1 vga=normal
initrd (hd1,1)/frugal/2.0/rootfs.gz
title SliTaz 1.0 (kernel 2.5.24.2, frugal install on sda2)
kernel (hd1,1)/frugal/1.0/vmlinuz-2.5.24.2-slitaz rw root=/dev/null kmap=fr-latin1 vga=normal
initrd (hd1,1)/frugal/1.0/rootfs.gz
The entry SliTaz 4.0 (kernel 2.6.37, full install on sdb1 from S752) runs SliTaz 4.0 full install on the USB stick (SliTaz 4.0 does not like recent hardware; with the Fujitsu Notebook S752, I've had to add options nomodeset and screen=text to be able to boot).
Other entries allow me to boot the last rolling or flavours in frugal mode; files are on my HD sda2.
On the Atom, I think the problem does not come from your stick but from the PC. It ignores USB like if in the boot order HD was before USB ports
hitsware
offlineMember
Hmmmmmm .........
I'm going to get new sticks and start over. (ext2 in case it helps)
If the TazPanel installer won't work, I'll try again later with another version.
As for the Atom ??? As I mentioned, at one time I had it (and old PC) booting from
the same SliTaz (FAT32) stick at least. But I'm not sure which SliTaz version I used ?
Should I try another version since you say 4.0 doesn't work so well with newer
hardware ? Keeping in mind I would like to use just the installer and not do much
manually.....
At the very least I have SliTaz on the Atom HD where it works very well.
I like SliTaz alot. Way snappier than Slax, and so fascinatingly small :)
Thanks Again ...............
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