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   aniguenni
   

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   @Ceel
   unfortunately I couldn‘t manage to save the Xorg.0.log file somewhere to paste it in the mentioned pastebin. Didn’t could mount any media to save the file or just copy into.
   And unfortunately I couldn’t manage to get wlan access by usb wlan stick because of no drivers for my stick, too :-(
   What I saw, that there is the iosf_mbi_pci device detected. But the module is missing.
   
   Just to want to know, how can I geht the module without Internet connection?

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   aniguenni
   

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   I could find sthg in Next64 diskussion.
   And I found sthg interesting there ...
   https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=ef71c6cd50
   ... it's just the same maschine.
   Should I put my Xorg.0.log in here as screenshot tiles (4)?

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   Hi aniguenni,

   Well, I don't understand anything anymore :(
   The module was loaded in a previous screenshot (lspci-k2.jpg) and iosf_mbi_pci is a builtin module:
   

   zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i iosf
   CONFIG_IOSF_MBI=y

   I don't know any way to (re)load a builtin module.

   I gave a look again at all the screenshots you posted; the kernel doesn't detect the same hardware and doesn't load the same modules from a boot to another one.

   Should I put my Xorg.0.log in here as screenshot tiles (4)?

   I don't think so as long as it's not clearer for me and we obtain reproductible boots. I need to think about all this.

   What is the exact configuration of the computer: UEFI or Legacy BIOS, SSD disk, Windows installed?
   Please can you post a screenshot of
   fdisk -l
   I would like to try a frugal installation.

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   @Ceel
   I'm so sorry for confusing you. And of course, I really don't want to hold you up. This wasn't my plan at all. So I really appreciate your support.
   So, the first screenshots came from my first steps, trying to boot slitaz rolling at qemu. But there, I could see, the system struggled with many things. This you can see at the screenshots on top of the relevant terminals.
   Afterwards I tried with creating an USB live stick and plugged it in.
   Curious that the iosf_mbi_pci module is shown as detected in tazhw detected-modules. But in tazhw detect-pci it is shown as missing.

   

   The laptop is a convertible and it's specs are shown in the link (linux-hardware.org) such as ... https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=a44a9b065b
   This is exactly the same computer I have.
   And with big fortune, today I could save my /var/log/Xorg.0.log on my USB stick. So I could post it in the mentioned pastebin and it's in here ... https://pastebin.com/cR0vMHta

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   As I tried another distro ... here is the output of my hw-probe ...
   https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=3a8aced1b7

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   Hello aniguenni,

   Your Xorg.0.log

   [...]
   [  2171.980] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
   [  2171.981] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module intel
   [  2171.981] (II) UnloadModule: "intel"
   [  2171.981] (II) Unloading intel
   [  2171.981] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
   [...]
   

   but i915 wasn't loaded from the command line:
   rw root=0x100 video=-32 autologin initrd=\EFI\boot\rootfs.gz nomodeset irqpoll

   I propose we start again from the begining and always boot from the same "install".
   But first I'd like you check the integrity of the ISO you use; if you've downloaded the .md5 file when you downloaded the .iso:

   • change in the directory where are the 2 files;
   • md5sum slitaz-rolling-core.iso (you don't need to be root);
   • cat slitaz-rolling-core.md5;
   • compare the 2 values

   If you didn't load the .md5, download the latest ISO and its md5 and make a new live. Or we can work from a full install on a USB stick, or a frugal install on the HD, I let you choose. But I think we should forget Qemu; I remember I struggled with it to access at the USB ports.

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   aniguenni
   

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   Hi Ceel,
   today, I got a bit free time. So I could spend some overtime to this project.
   the check of the iso file with the checksum are equal.
   I put the modprobe=i915 into the command line and tried to load all other modules I already knnow. But it made no difference. Still "no sreens found" and no access to the graphical mode.
   New Xorg.0.log you'll see here ... https://pastebin.com/iTAHXFJ0
   Now, I think to try like K3nn3th did 4 years ago, to get slitaz-rolling running on my WinPad. First to install another linux onto a usb stick and add slitaz like he mentioned on his post.
   Or do you think, this will end up at the same problem?
   Maybe the linux kernel 3.16.55 is too old for this machine and I should accept to wait for a newer slitaz version?

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   Hi aniguenni,

   K3nn3th did a frugal install; it's one of the ways I suggest you. You don't need to install another distro:

   • boot your live, login as root, remove the LiveUSB;
   • mount the hard disk: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt;
   • create a directory at the root of the HD, say slitaz (but you can give it the name you want) and copy in it the rootfs.gz and vmlinuz-3.16.55-slitaz files of the ISO;
   • insert a formated ext3 stick USB and mount it: mount /dev/sdb1 /media/flash (assuming there is nothing else that the new stick connected at USB ports);
   • install Grub4dos on it: grub-install --root-directory=/media/flash /dev/sdb (don't give any partition number);
   • change in the stick: cd /media/flash/boot/grub and create a menu.lst file with a simple entry:
     

     ### GRUB4DOS configuration file.
     
     # Boot SliTaz Rolling Core in frugal mode from HD
     title SliTaz GNU/Linux 5.0 Core 32bit (kernel 3.16.55)
     root (hd1,0)
     kernel /slitaz/vmlinuz-3.16.55-slitaz ro root=/dev/null nomodeset
     initrd /slitaz/rootfs.gz

     You can add the modprobe option in the kernel line.
     By the way, I saw in your Xorg.0.log you did a syntax error:

     Kernel command line: rw root=0x100 video=-32 initrd=\EFI\boot\rootfs.gz modprobe=i915 modprobe=xhci_pci modprobe=mei_txe modprobe=lpc_ich modprobe=r8723bs rw config=LABEL=packages-cooking,install.sh root=/dev/null video=-32 nomodeset

     When modprobe is used several times, the kernel keeps only the last occurence (r8723bs in the case above). Modules must be separated with ',' ; the right syntax is modprobe=i915,xhci_pci,mei_txe,lpc_ich,r8723bs.

   Boot from this stick to run the frugal install.

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   Ooops, maybe you boot with UEFI and not BIOS :/
   In this case, forget Grub4dos. It'll be still easier to boot from a pendrive.

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    @Ceel
    Yes it's an UEFI and i don't really understand, if it woud make any difference to boot from hd or from pendrive.
    These days i could get another 2in1 convertible with similar hardware (NextBook Ares 11A). It's not the bay-trail but the cherry-trail architecture. And i tried on this machine to boot the slitaz-rolling.iso with almost the same output ... no screens found. Even if i try to load the i915 module at the command line as you mentioned. Then the Xorg.0.log file says that the intel module can't be loaded.
    Maybe it's not worth to spend more time at this for the moment. But thank you very much for spending your time for trying to help me. I just still wonder how could K3nn3th run slitaz on a similar machine.

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    @Ceel
    finally, i could startx by configuring xorg with fbturbo ;-)
    Now i have to figure out, how to get all the stuff running such as the wireless module, memory cards, touch screen and other modules. I still keep on testing, because i really want this amazing os running on my ODYS WinPad V10

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    Hi aniguenni,

    Good to know!

    I remembered having a computer (Acer Aspire v3 111p) "on boarding" a few years ago and got the problem with iosf_mbi_pci module too; though this didn't create any troubles to boot SliTaz as well as in frugal as from ISO.
    Here is the return of lspci on this computer:
    

    00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series SoC Transaction Register [8086:0f00] (rev 0e)
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display [8086:0f31] (rev 0e)
    00:13.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series SATA AHCI Controller [8086:0f23] (rev 0e)
    00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series USB xHCI [8086:0f35] (rev 0e)
    00:1a.0 Encryption controller [1080]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine [8086:0f18] (rev 0e)
    00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller [8086:0f04] (rev 0e)
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:0f48] (rev 0e)
    00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 2 [8086:0f4a] (rev 0e)
    00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:0f4c] (rev 0e)
    00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series USB EHCI [8086:0f34] (rev 0e)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Power Control Unit <strong>[8086:0f1c]</strong> (rev 0e)
    00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor E3800 Series SMBus Controller [8086:0f12] (rev 0e)
    02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01)
    03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 0c)

    This was the same SoC than yours. Your computer is not really cooperative...

    i don't really understand, if it woud make any difference to boot from hd or from pendrive.

    The goal is simply to have a stick that allows to boot frugal installs on your HD without the need to install a distro.

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    @Ceel
    Thanks for your reply. I understand.
    Unfortunately the system doesn’t recognise my hd (it’s a built in 32G emmc flash memory).
    By now focussing to get the wifi working. But no success to get the module (r8723bs) loaded.

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    still sticking on get the modules detected. i think, the main thing is the linux kernel 3.16.55, which doesn't detect the bay trail or the cherry trail architecture.
    i read sthg about iosf_mbi_pci gets recognized from 3.17.x onwards. maybe this is the main goal?
    Now i ask, if anybody knows, how to get a newer linux kernel onto this system without having internet on the running slitaz rolling system?
    The slitaz-next iso doesn't start on this uefi :-( and i still don't want to give up this project to get this amazing os running on both of my machines

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