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• Started 11 years ago by Aleksej
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   Aleksej
   

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   Hi, my friends!

   Recently (in truth, too long) I was cleaning the unused accounts.
   Once we had over 8,000, and now a little over 1,500.
   Where it came from such a large amount of unused accounts? Why did I delete them? Reasonable questions.

   Probably you know, and more than once have noticed that the our SCN and Forum are favorite areas for spammers.
   On our pages they leave their bundles of meaningless messages.
   Their goal — to raise the price of its advertising links for search engines (like Google and Yahoo!), placing these links on as much as possible number of web pages.
   For admins, SCN have simple but efficient action — "Mark user as spammer", which deletes all spammer's activities and blocks spammer from any further activity.
   In the forum, admins can delete discrete spammer's posts or delete entire topic, and block spammer.
   Due to simplicity of these actions and lack of free time (who did a lot?) until today we had a huge amount of unused accounts.
   That's why I wanted to delete this bloated bubble by the name "nothing".

   We share users accounts between SCN and forum. Simply sign up to the SCN in order to be able to use the SCN as well as a forum. And vice-versa.
   Of course, something could go wrong in the process of removal, especially in the beginning. But, I tried to approach this issue very seriously. Anyway, I apologize to anyone I wrongly deleted. Yes, I'm the biggest "killer" of all time. Forgive me.

   And now some statistics for your entertainment.
   At the moment, for the 463 days of existence of SCN and forum, we have 9244 registered users.
   Personally, I removed the 5762 accounts.
   868 users have ever written a message on the forum and create new topics.
   Other 767 users have never written on the forum, but for all this time showed some activity (came to a forum or SCN under their account, or wrote messages on the SCN), and showed no yet spam activity.
   Total: 1635 users.

   The chart below shows the distribution of registered users on each day of existence SCN and forum. The horizontal scale is divided into weeks. The strongest peak of spam activity we had on May 29 this year, when 99 members signed up for one day.

   

   Also I want to tell many thanks to our activists who are fighting against spam in the SCN and in the forum, the people who no matter what appears here about every hour to our SCN and forums have been cleaner. They also help users with their advice. And they — almost all of the old team, who are able to share their experience here. I say thanks to Brenton Edgar Scott (Trixar_za), Richard Dunbar (mojo), Pascal Bellard…

   Sincerely yours, Aleksej Bobylev
   (as a spam fighter)

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   BugRaiser
   

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   So that's why my account was deleted a couple of weeks ago. :)

   It was only yesterday that a spam message has been posted on one of the threads I was watching, but it was deleted quickly.

   Thank you for your efforts to remove spammers and their garbage.

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   Aleksej
   

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   @BugRaiser: Please, tell me your old account name, I want to look up my base.

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   michaelbischof
   

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   Hey, biggest "killer" of all time: thanks a lot for your kind effort!

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   BugRaiser
   

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   @Aleksej: I had the same username i.e. BugRaiser.

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   Aleksej
   

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   Hmm :/

   Member #3278: BugRaiser; (name, mail, etc.); Registered: 11/08/03
   Member #9070: BugRaiser; (name, mail, etc.); Registered: 12/06/28

   In my users base I see both accounts as not deleted, so I was not deleted any of them. I don't know.

   Note that you have forum posts and I never deleted members with forum posts. But I have a couple of fails when I deleted a member without forum posts, but with old scn activity (over 1 year ago).

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   BugRaiser
   

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   Not sure what happened. All I know is that I wasn't able to login anymore (the error was that the username didn't exist anymore). Also, all my posts were marked as coming from Anonymous, so I figured this is what happens when someone's account is deleted.

   No harm done, my new old account is recreated and I can use it without problem.

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   Malcolm
   

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   hi,

   and yes you are a small community but that is probably to your advantage... I should really scan through your forums a bit more before posting this or perhaps start a new post but that said I'm sure here is fine...

   I curious about this project, what your objectives are (if any) and where you hope to go with this. My interest was drawn after I read a short review 'somewhere' which mentioned some sort of integration between desktop and server... it's an area I'm interested in however not from a programming perspective as I'm not a programmer: more a liberation thing...

   I regard myself more of a 'concept man'... with ideas regarding data management/mining and sharing from a non centralized, open source, non-commercial perspective...

   hence I ask what kind of web is Slitaz trying to weave... what is the objective?

   regards

   Greenman-23

   Posted 11 years ago #
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   Aleksej
   

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   You ask very strange questions.
   Our goal is to make best linux distro in the world, of course.

   If you are interesting for SliTaz future perspectives, you can read SliTaz Roadmap: http://roadmap.slitaz.org/

   Now about "some sort of integration between desktop and server".

   If you asking why we use small internal web server for Tazpanel show, I tell you this is simple and effective way to create GUI for bash scripts.

   And, yes, all servers SliTaz hosts working under SliTaz and Apache as web server.

   Posted 11 years ago #
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    Malcolm
    

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    Hi Aleksej..

    you find my question regarding the objective of the SliTaz project "strange" ... really??? (well it's a good job you are not looking for serious investors since they too would want to know the objective ;-)

    and your goal is to make the best linux distro in the world?

    best by what criteria?

    If you find these questions odd then perhaps it may be in your long term interests to ask them amongst your team... all projects have essentially two objectives; the group or team objective and the player/contributor objective. It's good to know what both and all (since a team effort with 100 contributors actually has 101 objectives) are... particularly if you want "to make the best linux distro in the world"

    an ambitious objective given the existence of Ubuntu and Mint both of which have considerably more contributors and funding...

    that's not to say you are being over ambitious but best for whom? For instance Ubuntu is weighty and primarily aimed at converting average (novice/facebook) users from windows to linux; thus it has a degree of "idiot proof" programming written into it.... which as I interpret means 'not very customizable' .. open the box and it sings and dances....

    Linux Mint is marketed as an alternative to Ubuntu and is what I currently use but rather like ubuntu it is aimed more at the generalist market

    programmers are I believe encourages to use Fedora as that's considered best for them...

    whilst not exhaustive (there are others with this aim) Bodhi Linux for minimalists (I have tried Bodhi but found it unstable and buggy)

    what I thought was interesting about SliTaz was the concept of an OS on a USB stick... which itself implies a very different market... one I would aver is on the move and tending to access the net more than a resident hard drive...

    so to your answer "best linux distro in the World" I ask best in what way? and for who...

    the same question could and is aimed at vehicles.. the best car depends on what you are looking for and intend to use it for thus a playboy having a midlife crisis buys a porsche but a family man with six kids a volvo and a builder a transit van...

    just as these vehicles are built for different purposes and appeal to different people so is and does an operating system.

    if you intend to please everyone then it's highly likely you will please none... too minimalist for the average user, too constrained for the programmer, too slow for the wide boy...

    so my question whilst strange to you is not as strange as your answer is to the World you hope to conquer...

    So I would think about it...

    in not doing so you risk building a camel when you hoped for a race horse...

    regards

    Greenman-23

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    Malcolm
    

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    just tom add..

    your roadmap... it's not: it's a post-it note...

    actually you are not alone in this.. most of the linux distro projects are equally vague.. seems to me to be a common issue in the linux community...

    regards

    greenman-23

    Posted 11 years ago #
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    Aleksej
    

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    Hi greenman-23,

    Please don't give my fast and joke answer (for "best in the world") as right answer or as community/developer answer.

    I've read in your first post strange for me (by the way, I'm Russian and my English not so good) words:

    ... I curious about this project ... (curious? really?)
    ... I read a short review 'somewhere' which mentioned some sort of integration between desktop and server ... (too unclear)
    ... I'm not a programmer ... (we have a whole community of 'not a programmer's ;)
    ... what kind of web is Slitaz trying to weave ... (weave the web? so, we are spiders :D)

    You're first for this year (in my memory) man who ask non-technical questions. So they sounds little 'alienish' for my ears ;/

    SliTaz is not my work, not my job. So, personally I do all my "commits" in this project "just for fun". And I feel free to add any good piece of code to this project.

    We are not a Firefox developers team (you know what I mean), I doubt they don't have real roadmap, all the sort of deadlines and PR managers. Personally I part in the SliTaz project because I far far from all these things...

    Our community lacks this sort of 'concept man' like you, Malcolm! You are welcomed (if you want) to find strong sides of SliTaz by yourself, and to cope with public and sponsors... I unsure, but I think that commercialisation of SliTaz would kill him.

    It is good all the clear roadmaps and public relations, but for geek and once-in-a-while-programmer like me -- only code listings have real sense.

    Posted 11 years ago #
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    Trixar_za
    

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    I stopped reading pretty early, but I can answer all this questions in one sentence: You're over-thinking it. By my standards SliTaz is the best. Does anybody elses opinion matter?

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