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#26 2014-02-23 12:56:11

sixofeight
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

The good, the bad and the ugly SpaceFm

new? cooking -> dd to usb -> boot without prob - full resolution

still no ide-hd or ide-cd/dvd-rom-drive--usb-flash OK.

(MoBo ecs k7s5a chipset sis 735).this is working in 4.0

about sound

sound is working after:

root@slitaz:/# alsactl init

Found hardware: "ICH" "Realtek ALC100,100P rev 38" "AC97a:414c4326" "0x1019" "0x0a14"

Hardware is initialized using a generic method

root@slitaz:/#

and adjusting the Sliders in alsamixer.

the disappearing mouse pointer (if you don't move the mouse(eg in alsaplayer)) is annoying.

SpaceFm:

File -> terminal..does nothing; File -> root Terminal-> ask for Pw-> does nothing

File-> Root Window-> ask for Pw-> work 1 out of 10 tries.(*#!"%&#*).I t seems that I only get a root-window in a root-permission-folder.

Another example:

In a root-window I cut out a firmware-file and wanted to paste it in a normal window (tux-folder)

result:Permission denied WTF

I had to go to: rightclick File-> edit-> move to-> location->choose the location->Ok

Please get rid of that damn thing!

Ok,back to Hw:

Detected PCI devices Kernel modules:

! Missing module : agpgart_sis

For our wifi users:

The Atheros 9271 chipset, which worked with the ar9271.fw -file now needs the htc_9271.fw file to work.

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#27 2014-02-23 14:32:26

aniguenni
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

when closing spacefm as user (tux), the following error message occurs:

Error: Unable to save session file.  Do you want to exit without saving?

( Permission denied )

... why do you guys stay with spacefm? it's a question of less memory?

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#28 2014-02-23 16:39:48

kultex
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

I think spacefm has no config until now - as soon as I have time I will look at the config of cooking - spacefm is really cool, when well configured and for security reasons much better than pcmanfm. I use it since September and I am a fan of spacefm.

The only problem is, that it does not like sh - it wants bash for plugins.... but maybe I can convince Ignorantguru.....

@sixofeight  can you post the output of  fdisk - l

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#29 2014-02-23 19:35:36

sixofeight
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@kultex

not much to see:

root@slitaz:/home/tux# fdisk -l

root@slitaz:/home/tux#

--------------------------------------------

(cooking iso 20140218)

--------------------------------------------

What about the missing agpgart module?

necrophcodr (on top of this page) is missing the agpgart_intel

and my box is missing the agpgart_sis

--------------------------------------------

EDIT:

rereading Ceels post and his iso is 22/02/2014 ??,so I got

an older one today morning ??

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#30 2014-02-23 21:57:27

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

it seems, that only the modules built in the kernel are loaded

@sixofeight - can you post the output of "lsmod" - normal is something like this:

root@slitaz:/home/tux1 lsmod

Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted

speedstep_lib           2423  0

acpi_cpufreq            4393  0

mperf                    867  1 acpi_cpufreq

ipv6                  182722 14

snd_intel8x0           20258  1

snd_intel8x0m           8143  0

snd_ac97_codec         78339  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m

ac97_bus                 718  1 snd_ac97_codec

snd_pcm                44261  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec

snd_page_alloc          4813  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_pcm

pcmcia                 24936  0

snd_timer              12167  1 snd_pcm

snd                    34425  7 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer

yenta_socket           16183  0

intel_agp               7996  1

pcmcia_rsrc             6985  1 yenta_socket

soundcore               3405  1 snd

intel_gtt               9303  1 intel_agp

pcmcia_core             8345  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,pcmcia_rsrc

video                   9582  0

agpgart                17934  2 intel_agp,intel_gtt

button                  3335  0

ipw2200               108419  0

libipw                 18017  1 ipw2200

lib80211                2517  2 ipw2200,libipw

cfg80211              118374  2 ipw2200,libipw

rfkill                 10402  1 cfg80211

root@slitaz:/home/tux2

and maybe attach also dmesg in a text file with

dmesg -> dmesg.txt

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#31 2014-02-24 07:08:26

sixofeight
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@kultex

here it is

(pure iso, usb-flash-boot, live mode)

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#32 2014-02-24 08:51:06

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

regarding the agpgart_sis module

if you look in lsmod - it seems that the module in agpgart is renamed to sis_agp 

check how it is called in 4.0

if it is like this, this has to be changed in tazhw

and regarding to your harddisk - it may be a problem of new kernel

I need also dmesg and lsmod from 4.0 and lspci

but I have no time before the weekend to deal with it

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#33 2014-02-24 09:54:38

sixofeight
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@kultex

here they are

note:I'm booting Sz4 from a customized live-Cd, my internal Hdd is only

storage.(ext2).

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#34 2014-02-24 20:15:19

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

ok - the sis-ide drivers are not in the kernel - we have to add

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513=m

I will check next weekend, if we are missing some other drivers

and can you check on 4.0 if tazhw is also telling about missing agpgart_sis

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#35 2014-02-24 22:04:48

sixofeight
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

Hi kultex

First of all thank you that you have found the error.

and no, no missing agpgart_sis module in 4.0 (tazhw)

-----------------------------------------------------

not to confuse you and maybe completely irrelevant

could it be that it is named "agpgart-sis" in 4.0 ?

(found in the dmesg-file)

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again,many thanks...I can hardly wait till next release.

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#36 2014-02-25 07:04:57

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

it is not irrelevant - but it is the same also in cooking - agpgart-sis is done in both versions by udev

so I have no ideay, why tazhw is crying in cooking....

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#37 2014-02-26 22:24:44

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@mojo,

NTFS signature is missing --> change ntfs-3g to #ntfs-3g

Thanks mojo; it works correctly now.

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#38 2014-02-27 21:46:35

Ceel
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

[*]Bug in tazpkg (look at sizes)?
[c]

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg depends udevil

  udev (220.0K)

    util-linux-blkid (468.0K)

      glibc-base (4.1M)

      util-linux-uuid (68.0K)

        ncursesw (ndisc6)

          ncurses-common (116.0K)

    pciids (240.0K)

    usbids (200.0K)

    acl (python-dev)

      attr (fbff)

    kmod (mindi)

      zlib (224.0K)

      liblzma (yacpi)

  glib (tahoe-lafs)

    pcre (500.0K)

    libffi (libfirefox)

    libxml2 (python-magic)

    elfutils (856.0K)

root@slitaz:/home/tux#[/c]

Already seen with SliTaz 4.0

[*]Bug in TazPanel

Search for a package in TazPanel (ie: midori)

[attachment=28124,1329]

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#39 2014-02-28 08:47:48

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@ sixofeight

can you try new rolling, if your harddrive  is now available?  pata_sis.ko.xz was added to modules list

http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/rev/7d9fe8b78117

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#40 2014-02-28 11:16:07

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

yep..Hdd is detected

tazhw same issue:

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazhw detected-modules

Detected PCI and USB modules

===============================================

agpgart_sis

ohci_hcd

ohci_hcd

pata_sis

snd_intel8x0

ohci_hcd

ohci_hcd

ehci_hcd

nouveau

===============================================

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazhw detect-pci

Detected PCI devices Kernel modules

===============================================

! Missing module : agpgart_sis

* Builtin module : ohci_hcd

> Module in use  : pata_sis

> Module in use  : snd_intel8x0

* Builtin module : ohci_hcd

* Builtin module : ehci_hcd

> Module in use  : nouveau

===============================================

I'm still in trouble with SpaceFm:

boot from usb (live mode)-> remove usb->empty folder /media/SliTaz core-4in1

I can't delete that folder (owner tux) not as tux and not as root.

also all the "do it as root" rightclick options won't work.They are asking

for the PW but doing nothing.

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#41 2014-02-28 17:59:04

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@sixofeight

the ! Missing module : agpgart_sis will not disapear, as long as somedody looks into tazhw - at the moment i have no time. But it is no problem, because agpgart_sis is loaded by udev, so the error is only, that tazhw is reporting this non existing error...

the spacefm troubles -

you should eject the stick before you remove the stick

and all the "do it as root" options are not working, because of spacefm needs bash - I think, when you install bash, it will work (did not test it) - my solution is to add a spacefm root desktopentry in  /usr/share/applications - it is attached - just remove the .txt

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#42 2014-02-28 20:11:16

sixofeight
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@kultex

It seems that progress is being made, at least for me..;-)

Thank you

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#43 2014-03-02 13:29:02

Ceel
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

ERROR DURING COMPILING KERNEL

Make returns the following error when compiling the kernel:
[c]

make[2]: *** [drivers/block/loop.o] Error 1

make[1]: *** [drivers/block] Error 2

make: *** [drivers] Error 2[/c]

Compiling modules is OK; it seems that all the missing modules are built and installed. I'm going to do a new iso for Cooking so I'll be able to connect to the internet and can continue to test cooking.

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#44 2014-03-13 18:16:16

Ceel
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

Hi,

3 QUESTIONS

[*]Can I consider, running Cooking, that after an update the system is same that Rolling?

[*]Would it be possible with next Rolling/Cooking to have a graphical utility that just would show the state of the memory: total/free/used Mem/Swap in real time (like Info System in stable)? This would be very usefull (for me :-) ) when working on a system with few RAM.

[*]Running as well as Cooking than Rolling, can someone explain me why the Task Manager indicates more free memory than the [c]free[/c] command?

Thanks

[attachment=28385,1350]

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#45 2014-03-13 21:15:11

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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@Ceel

I'm pretty sure the Task Manager reports the same as the free command. But look for the +/- buffers selection, not the 'Mem' selection.

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#46 2014-03-13 21:57:10

sixofeight
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@ceel

In the task Manager click view > and uncheck "Show memory used by cache as free"

then you will see the same values as with free -m

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#47 2014-03-14 18:15:23

Ceel
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

@sixofeight

Yes, you're right. Thanks.

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#48 2014-03-14 21:48:38

TraceE
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Re: SliTaz Cooking 20140216

Hi, I'm really new here and not sure if my experience is of use to you.

I've now got a real fast robust OS based on the 2012 stable core flavor.

But just spent a few days with the latest rolling and cooking flavors.

Laptop is Aspire 7520 TK-55 dual core, geforce 7000 with 4Gb ram (used at 32bit).

With the latest flavors I could boot to desktop using the nomodeset code and was experiencing the usual nouveau screen problem of only 1/4 of the screen being used without nomodeset as boot option. I've been through this before with other distro's but unfortunately it's the 1st time I've not been able to fix it.

I could get wireless networking to work but not the usual way that I do by editing network.conf and restarting network.sh .... it wouldn't work until I'd started it through the new tazpanel.

With what I could get working eg. gparted and other system tools ... I noticed an impressive improvement in speed.

But a complete fail at getting flashplayer installed and a lot of trouble downloading from repository meant that I reluctantly returned to the 2012 version.

I hope this info is maybe helpful ... I'm not sure what info is valuable to you but I am very inspired by slitaz and look forward to future developments.

Thanks for your hard work ... smile

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