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#1 2014-02-26 15:48:10

resetreset
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Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

Hi,

I just found this site, and I have an old machine I would like to make  a webserver out of. I'm facing a no. of problems:

1. It's DVD drive is not working, so I can't use a CD to boot off of. The ROM also doesn't support booting off USB, so that's out. However, it just occurred to me that the *floppy* drive still works, and I also have a couple of old floppies lying around. They may be damaged, but anyway, suppose they DO work, is it possible to boot off of a floppy and have that floppy then boot from the USB stick?

I should point out that it's USB 1.1 (at least that's what I remember of the version nos., it's the one before 2.0), and I have 64 megs RAM.

and 2. How would I get it connected to the internet? It has no Ethernet slot, and my router doesn't have any USB output. Is it possible to use a WiFi USB adapter? Which of these will work out of the box with Slitaz? :

http://www.flipkart.com/search?q=usb+wifi+adapter&as=on&as-show=on&otracker=start&as-pos=3_q

I'd like it to be cheap as possible, of course.

Thanks, and I hope I can DO this with your help.

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#2 2014-02-26 16:40:01

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

Hi resetreset

Download the plop-bootmanager

http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html

Look for the Floppy-image that you have to write on a Floppy.

boot the Floppy and plop give you the ability to boot an usb-flash-drive.

regarding wifi:

from my experience i can recommend an usb-wifi with the Atheros 9271 chipset,

add the required Firmware-File and it will work without probs

(Tp-Link TL-WN721N)..BUT please double check the Chipset before you buy one.

The Chipset may vary, even with the same Model-No.

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#3 2014-02-26 17:18:27

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

If plop doesn't work you can try http://floppy.slitaz.org/ ...

... and a null-modem serial cable.

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#4 2014-02-26 17:51:05

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

I use this 10$ usb dongle http://www.tplink.com/ir/products/details/?model=TL-WN725N with the attached kernel module for slitaz 4.0.

In cooking the module is in the linux-wireless package, which is installed in gtkonly, core and loram flavors.

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#5 2014-02-26 22:15:36

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

@resetreset,

PlopBootManager works really well; I use it on my two old computers to boot from USB.

You can install it on you hard disk and create an entry in your bootloader.

What's the OS on the P II ?

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#6 2014-02-28 16:22:02

resetreset
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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

Thanks so much guys smile

The OS is Win98. In case the floppies ARE damaged, is there a way to install Slitaz FROM Windows? Is this WUBI thing something I should look into? I don't know much about it.

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#7 2014-02-28 16:25:30

resetreset
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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

Eh sorry, just DuckDuckGo'd WUBI, it's only for Ubuntu! Didn't know that.

Is there anything else?

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#8 2014-02-28 17:42:35

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:frugal

I run it like this with xp - works like a charme

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#9 2014-02-28 18:02:12

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

> The OS is Win98. In case the floppies ARE damaged, is there a way to install Slitaz FROM Windows?

With cooking yes, but it's tricky : you must restart in real mode (like old DOS), rename

slitaz-cooking.iso to slitaz.exe, and lauch it

See  http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/ab5bde7ad5e1/syslinux/stuff/iso2exe/README

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#10 2014-02-28 18:41:48

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

@resetreset

You can also run live from the ISO but you said you have only 64MB RAM...

With 256MB, I can start Cooking LiveCD  but it just remains 15MB free! I can surf on the internet but I cannot download anything. Even install a package can be a problem.

So I don't think you can do a frugal install.

@Bellard

Just need to rename the file? I thought we have to use iso2exe before so need to do it from linux first?

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#11 2014-02-28 18:53:36

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

but I think the Low-Ram iso works with 64MB

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#12 2014-02-28 19:41:44

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

The less I have is 256MB; I cannot try and unfortunately there is no loram for cooking

resetreset will have to try with the 4.0-loram. I read a few days ago in the TazLiTo manual that we can create our own loram iso. I'm going to try with Cooking this week end.

@resetreset

48MB are enough to boot base in Live and it should be possible to launch it from Windows. You can try this:

[*]Download slitaz-cooking.iso on your HD (ie: in c:\slitaz\cooking\)

[*]Download GRUB4DOS

[*]Unzip the file; copy/paste from-where-you-unzipped-GRUB4DOS\grub4dos-0.4.4\grldr to c:\

[*]Create a text file that you'll call menu.lst with this code inside:[c]

# c:\menu.lst : GRUB boot loader configuration

#

# Boot SliTaz Cooking base from ISO in live mode

title Slitaz Cooking bas LiveISO (kernel 3.2.53)

map --mem --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 (hd0,0)/slitaz/cooking/slitaz-cooking.iso (hd32)

map --hook

kernel (hd32)/boot/bzImage rw root=/dev/null vga=normal

initrd (hd32)/boot/rootfs4.gz[/c]

[*]At the end of the c:\boot.ini file (you must be admin and unmask files system), add this line:[c]

c:\grldr="Grub4dos"[/c]

[*]Save and exit. Mask files sytem before reboot. You should have a menu at boot. Select SliTaz.

Then from here you can install SliTaz and modify your menu.lst to have a dual boot. Hope a full install can run with 64MB.

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#13 2014-02-28 19:59:41

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

@ceel: you need http://mirror.slitaz.org/boot/isohybrid.exe to convert slitaz-4.0.iso but it's already done for the cooking. See the bottom of http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/cooking/slitaz-cooking.log.

The iso is a hybrid CD-ROM image / USB key or hard disk image / DOS real-mode EXE / Windows 32 bits EXE

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#14 2014-02-28 21:10:27

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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

OK, thank you Bellard.

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#15 2014-03-01 08:10:23

resetreset
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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

Eh guys, looks like I'm outta luck - Win98 won't recognise the USB pendrive, so I can't download anything and then transfer it to this laptop. I tried, well, to *neogtiate* with 98, but in true Microsoft style, it fucks up BAD!

I can't think of anything else.

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#16 2014-03-01 08:53:22

sixofeight
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Re: Problems with installing on my old P-II laptop

Win 98 needs an extra driver to handle usb-flash.you can download one here:

http://www.cnsupport.de/files/de/treiber/win98se_treiber/usbcore/nusb24d.exe

It's small enough to fit on a floppy....but if you can't get your floppy to work

......

really no chance to get a working floppy to use plop ??

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knowing where 98-drivers are,  man I'm feeling really old now..

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