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#1 2014-03-03 12:10:21

frank
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Registered: 2014-03-03
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4.0 won't give Windows Manager

Hello

I am trying to load SliTaz on an old Acer Aspire with 190MB RAM. I have tried most of the selectable boots (Live, Core, etc) but I only get a "slitaz login" prompt. With the first option, boot SliTaz Live, I see a bold "Welcome to your box."  before a display of the load time, the kernel version, then the login prompt.

I have tried logging in and running "startx", but I get a "Fatal server error; server is already active for display 0", etc.

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#2 2014-03-03 16:58:23

kultex
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

190 MB is to little - try it with lowram iso

http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/4.0/flavors/

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#3 2014-03-03 20:33:02

frank
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

Thanks

I have tried loram - same login prompt.

xorg-light - same login prompt.

loram-cdrom - same login prompt.

Any other ideas gratefully accepted!

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#4 2014-03-03 20:46:56

Ceel
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

May be a problem causes by the graphic card.

Try with slitaz-3.0-xvesa

Do you try to boot from a Live ? CD, USB, frugal... ?

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#5 2014-03-03 21:40:05

frank
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

I have loaded slitaz 3 without a problem, so this should not be a graphics card problem.

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#6 2014-03-03 22:00:19

Ceel
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

I meant it could be a problem of driver.

At prompt, login as root an run [c]tazx[/c] to try to load the good driver.

more information @ http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:xorg-xvesa

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#7 2014-03-04 18:42:48

frank
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

I have now tried many different iso's - I even tried a boot from the web. All failed in one way or another, so I have gone back to basics.

I have re-downloaded slitaz-4.0-loram.iso, burned to cd and booted from it.

I selected the default (first) option, Live, and selected my locale and keyboard when asked.

I got the "slitaz login" prompt - no windows manager.

So, following your advice, I logged in as root and ran "lspci" to determine  he video card - it is VIA, with S3 Unichrome in brackets.

tazhw shows via-agp.

I ran "tazpkg get-install linux-agp" - this said it was already installed.

I ran "tazx", selected Install/reconfigure xorg, and selected the S3 driver.

The display told me to test the changes by runnig "X -config /root/xorg.config.new" - this gave a Fatal error - Server is already active!

Any ideas?

Thanks

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#8 2014-03-04 20:50:55

frank
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

Update

I can load slitaz 3 core - this gives me the Windows manager.

If I then try to Install to the hard disk, this seems to work but on rebooting from the hard disk, it stops with a "#"prompt during the boot process immediately after the line "freeing unused kernel memory 408k freed"

I can also see that when I select the Slitaz Installer from the loaded 3.0 core loram, there are error messages flashing up during the final phases - I haven't been able to see them properly, but it looks like errors in creating files in the etc directory for one. I will try again and see if I can find out more.

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#9 2014-03-05 09:04:03

frank
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

Update

I have now downloaded slitaz 3 core loram and burned to cd; I boot from this, then run the slitaz-installer after adding S3 video driver via tazx. I have done all this before after using a web boot of 3 core loram.

But now the install has worked - there were no error messages flashing up during the install process.

So - it looks to me as if  there is a problem using the installer from the web boot (of course with the large number of attempts I have made so far it is possible that something else was the problem).

Now I will move on to try to upgrade to a loram version of 4 - if that is possible to run with 190MB.

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#10 2014-03-05 09:31:16

Ceel
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

Cool!

I run SliTaz 4.0 with 256MB that I installed from 4.0 loram in web boot. It's sometimes a little slow on the internet and don't think to look at video. But quite correct with SoftMaker free office and other standard applications.

Make a swap partition (300MB at least)

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#11 2014-04-11 06:37:41

lindylex
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Registered: 2014-04-10
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

[ PARTIAL SOLUTION ]

Both of the following work.

menuentry "slitaz slitaz-3.0-xvesa" {

      loopback loop /boot/iso/slitaz-3.0-xvesa.iso

    gfxpayload=800x600

      linux    (loop)/boot/bzImage isofrom=/dev/disk/by-uuid/1662-5E2F/boot/iso/slitaz-4.0.iso boot=live quiet noeject noprompt

      initrd   (loop)/boot/rootfs.gz

}

menuentry "slitaz slitaz-3.0-xvesa II" {

      loopback loop /boot/iso/slitaz-3.0-xvesa.iso

    gfxpayload=800x600

      linux    (loop)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30.6-slitaz isofrom=/dev/disk/by-uuid/1662-5E2F/boot/iso/slitaz-4.0.iso boot=live quiet noeject noprompt

      initrd   (loop)/boot/rootfs.gz

}

Get the iso for the older version 3.0 of Slitaz

http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/3.0/flavors/slitaz-3.0-xvesa.iso

I remain committed to solving this for version 4.

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#12 2014-04-11 07:31:39

lindylex
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Re: 4.0 won't give Windows Manager

I am almost there.  I use the following to start the O.S.  All the content from the iso have been extracted to the usb stick at "/boot/slitaz/"

For Grub2 Works

menuentry 'Slitaz 4.0 Live tazpider suggestion II' {

        linux /boot/slitaz/boot/bzImage lang=en kmap=en

        initrd /boot/slitaz/boot/rootfs.gz

}

For Grub4Dos Works

title Slitaz rootfs

kernel /boot/slitaz/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/ram0 vga=791 lang=en kmap=en

initrd /boot/slitaz/boot/rootfs.gz

I get to the commandline and login in using "tux" [enter]

su root [enter]

password: root [enter]

I have to find out what is my video card.

lspci [enter]

I have an Nvida video card so I use the nv drivers.

tazx [enter]

choose vesa it downloads vesa drivers.

I select nv.   It sets that up.

This is where I am stuck.  Xserver is running for the tux user and root.  How do I stop it from running and start x using vesa drivers?

This does not stop the xserver "alt-ctrl-backspace".  I tried it in the tux user and root user. Getting help from http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:xorg-xvesa and http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:xwindow

Thanks, Lex

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