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@az_ua
yes I fixed groups creation for first user, then users should use slitaz-config to add a new user, since it will ensure the new user belong to needed groups. The commit: http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-boot-scripts/rev/b0b8423150c4
And this one should fix sound bug: http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-boot-scripts/rev/0555df1782e6
We are use 'alsactl init' on SliTaz ARM for a while and it work fine, dont know realy why we was still usind old setmixer on i486.
- Christophe
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Really works for new user in slitaz-rolling.iso, but I was talking about default livecd user.
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since I see maintainers are watching this post, I would take this opportunity to propose some memory waste improvements....
There are in fact some issues still present here in v5 from old v4:
-default user is not root: since slitaz is a professional tool,not a android phone or window$, it would be nice to have the default user root, so we dont need to hack slitaz all the times as in v4, right?
- lots of documents wasting good memory: slitaz is not puppylinux, I mean, the best most updated slitaz docs, and not-slitaz, are on the relative official websites, why waste memory and duplicate them here?
- accessories/spreadsheet:whats that? some ascii-art?
- accessories/wiki documents: better the ones from internet, right?
- development/bitbucket: what I need that for?
- documentation: again, what's the point to duplicate it here?
- games: again, since slitaz is a professional tool, not a phone nor window$, who is interested in play those sudoku/chess?
- internet/twitter: again, since slitaz is a professional tool, not a phone nor window$, who is interested in a twitter-app like?
- office/wikipedia: better the ones from internet, right?
- slitaz-panel: it would be a real time saver removing that root/root auth request every time from slitaz panel, we know what we are doing here, is it not? 
Then if someone is really interested in games, duplicate docs, more users, whatever, can always get them from repository, right?
It would be nice to know what the community thinks about that, thanks 
On the root thing... Short Answer: No.
Longer Answer: Linux uses non-root users to protect the system. There's about 100 or so odd viruses for Linux, with about 40 active at the moment. Of that, the majority cannot cause serious damage without the user giving it permission to do so, which leaves about a handful ones and those mostly they just infect SAMBA. Now what would happen if you leave a user as root? Yeah, you'll be inviting a lot of nasty on to your system.
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@nikitan
since I see maintainers are watching this post, I would take this opportunity to propose some memory waste improvements....
There are in fact some issues still present here in v5 from old v4:
-default user is not root: since slitaz is a professional tool,not a android phone or window$, it would be nice to have the default user root, so we dont need to hack slitaz all the times as in v4, right?
I believe Trixar_za already answered this.
- lots of documents wasting good memory: slitaz is not puppylinux, I mean, the best most updated slitaz docs, and not-slitaz, are on the relative official websites, why waste memory and duplicate them here?
There's a good reason for this. People might want to read up on how to use SliTaz. That's the place for them. If you don't want to, that's fine. You can create a SliTaz version without documentation and be set. Isn't that great?
- accessories/spreadsheet:whats that? some ascii-art?
I agree on this, I have no idea. This needs to be looked at.
- accessories/wiki documents: better the ones from internet, right?
- development/bitbucket: what I need that for?
- documentation: again, what's the point to duplicate it here?
For reference, so you don't accidentally lose it.
- games: again, since slitaz is a professional tool, not a phone nor window$, who is interested in play those sudoku/chess?
Why is SlITaz a professional tool? It can be used as a professional operating system, and I use it as such myself, but that's not all it can be. Why limit yourself if the world can be yours? SliTaz CAN be used on thin clients without issues, it can also be used on servers and desktops. You can even create a flavour of your own that contains no games. Again, a non-issue really.
- internet/twitter: again, since slitaz is a professional tool, not a phone nor window$, who is interested in a twitter-app like?
I'm still not sure where you're getting that SliTaz is "strict biz".
- office/wikipedia: better the ones from internet, right?
Are you suggesting that the ones on the internet are better than saving Wikipedia on a machine? Because I would mostly agree on that point, but why does this matter so much to you?
- slitaz-panel: it would be a real time saver removing that root/root auth request every time from slitaz panel, we know what we are doing here, is it not?
Not everyone does. Everyone should be able to use SliTaz without it being a dumbed down system, in my personal opinion, and so far it is heading closer to that. Running everything as root 100% of the time is completely insane.
Then if someone is really interested in games, duplicate docs, more users, whatever, can always get them from repository, right?
It would be nice to know what the community thinks about that, thanks
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okkeeey :)from the wiki: SliTaz GNU/Linux is a free operating system working completely in memory.
I rooted slitaz4 (as I did with my phone:)), removed all docs and games, bypassed the root/root panel, and so on, just a week after I met slitz4.. why? because I need MEMORY! ) isnt it the MAIN purpose of slitaz? only after that, I fall in love with slitaz.. and cant go back window$ anymore! )its years Im using it, never got any "virus", never had any root related issue, believe it or not!
Anyway, please,just keep the os structure as in slitaz4, so that Ill be able to "customize" it again, thanks
Hi all,
Realy glade too see the community active!
@nikitan questions
You got some correct anser about root, it's a security reason. Now on beeing asked for root password each time you use TazPanel. We are NOT going to remove the password, again, for security reason. But, we use TazWeb when you run Tazpanel from the menu, and TazWeb is minimal and secure web browser: it dont save passwords or cookies or whatever a website want to know about you.
If you use TazPanel with Midori or Firefox, then you can tell te browser to save the password. Try:
$ midori http://localhost:82
If you want to use Midori with Tazpanel by default, you can create a launcher on the desktop.
The wiki is a local wiki = the documents are saved in RAM or HD or USB key (depends on the slitaz mode used). It is very small any we include it to hace an office writer like application. Same for the spreadsheet, for a few Kb you have a office spreadsheet application!
Wikipedia is NOT installed localy: These are only menu entries starting the default browser on the sites. This is done with a single file, too see it:
$ cat /usr/share/applications/wikipedia.desktop
Bitbucket, wikipedia, twitter are provide by the package: web-applications. Remove it to remove thes menu entry, but you not save much space :-)
For the SliTaz doc: we include a get-started guide and release note on stable for people who dont have any internet connection. SliTaz is also used in some country where internet is very limitated, and in classroom without the web. This one of our humanity helper!
Regards,
- Christophe
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Hello all
On my hard disk I had two empty partitions hda5 and hda6 which are now used by Slitaz-5.0-rc1 after installation "by hand" (mkfs, mount, cp, lzma and cpio). After editing menu.lst I have two entries Slitaz-4.0 (hda1, hda2, hda3)and Slitaz-5.0-rc1 (hda5, hda6)
Reboot on Slitaz-5.0-rc1.
Login tux passwd none ok. X starts, ok. Change the keyboard : #tazkeymap (choice fr-latin1) or #loadkeys fr and #setxkbmap fr ; in order to have that persistent, replace us with fr in
/etc/X11/xorg.d/40-Keyboard.conf
Firewall
#hwsetup firewall install iptable and linux-netfilter and rcS.conf is automatically upgrade (RUN_DAEMONS="firewall httpd")
Problem : error in /usr/bin/tazpkg line 3076 no file INSTALLED/iptables/files.list
PCmanfm
No problem after #tazpkg recharge && tazpkg up and reboot
Usb disks are mounted automatically when they are plugged in.
Time
#date is ok but #hwclock returns "can't open /dev/misc/rtc" so I've added modprobe rtc and hwclock --hctosys at the end of /etc/init.d/rcS
May be LOAD_MODULES="rtc" is enough (in /etc/rcS.conf) ?
Skype
#tazpkg -gi skype then $skype returns error with /etc/machine-id
This problem is solved with #dbus-uuidgen > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id
Now $skype starts skype and stop right now.
This problem is solved by #mkdir /var/run/udev then #/etc/init.d/dbus start and check if UDEV="yes" in /etc/rcS.conf
Multimedia, office
In order to have the sound : #alsactl init
No problem here : I've installed libdvdcss, libdvdread, smplayer, aspell, aspell-fr, abiword, abiword-plugins, gnumeric, xsane
When my old PC is out of order, I know my next Linux : Slitaz-5.0
Please, keep it simple with a true account root (with passwd) and a user account tux
I already tried *buntu (too heavy) and Arch (too much upgrades, not simple)
Do have a very nice day for all.
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Xorg started in 256-color mode. Fixed by adding [c]video=1280x1024M-32@75[/c] kernel parameter. Or using tazx and selecting nouveau, then initrd repacking. I saw it downloads mesa? thought it's about 3d. I only need to fix 2d. This problem if only loaded with old hardware - geforce2mx400.
How can I disable xterm closed by ctrl+click?
In midnight commander, shift+f3 works like shift+f5, shift+f6 = f8, and all such like this. Alt+Letter hotkeys not working too. Everywhere in tty+sakura+xterm! Terminfo packages fixes only single shift+f3 hotkey.
Me temporarily switched to urxvt.
BUG! in [c]get-opera[/c] script produces opera tazpkg without en.lng, so buttons are empty, string looks like variable names. fixed in line 117 by adding [c]en[/c].
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@pankso
Just would like to repeat what another user already wrote, because I also agree.
Slitaz has its own "spirit", keep it
Slitaz has the potential do be the SMALLEST, FASTEST, EASIEST to customize, os out there!
Please, dont try to find the "compromise" between those pain-in-the-ass window$, app£e, whatever, and yourself... between those ultra-fat linux main distros, and yourself.
Be yourself, because you are UNIQUE.
There are tons of os and tools for IT noobs out there... THE professionals need Slitaz! 
And believe me, I tried everything almost...
Also you might keep in mind that some users run Slitaz ONLY live, no persistent installation, which means we made our customizations, repacked the 4 russian-dolls, and added ours... so please, dont under-evaluate the popularity of a perfectly-working modular live version.
p.s. to who is afraid someone needs static docs in Slitaz because doesn't have internet... well, how did he download Slitaz first of all?:))
still problems with mountig partitions and USB fD. Even after update. Now PCmanFM shows volumes and FD but I'm not able to open them.
"Not authorized to perform operation" they said
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I just installed vesion 5.rc1 and at boot time it doesn't allow to change the kmap to spanish.
Also when I set the keyboard to spanish once installed with the spanish option it doesn't display the letter "ñ", instead it display "?". Another key that is missing is the "¿" when I pressed that one I get "?". The rest of my spanish keyboard map looks ok, but those two letter are very important in the spanish keyboard. I writting now with the 3.0 and the keyboard setup is fine. Don't want to stay in version 3.00. Will this be fix? Anything I can do in the meantime?
I use a laptop Acer, extensa5230E with an spanish keyboard bought in Spain.
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Cuando instalo slitaz 5.0rc1 e intento al prompt de boot escribir: lang=es kmap=es, recibo un error diciendo que la kernel no lo reconoce. Una vez instalado uso el programa para map el teclado a español, las teclas responden correctamente con la exepcion de la ñ, que me escribe ?. Tambien la tecla de ¿ me escribe ?. Tengo un laptop Acer con teclado en español comprado en España. ¿Alguna sugerencia o comentario?
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@compostela Yes I already fixed the issue. When you change the keyboard layout the Xorg config must be updated. From this commit, tazkeymap/tazx will do it for you: http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-tools/rev/3dd4838c69c6
To fix the bug, run: 'tazx keyboard' then logout X session and login again. To verify Xorg keyboard settings you can have a look to the file:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-Keyboard.conf
- Christophe
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Hi pankso and development team.
I have a suggestion for SliTaz 5. A modern font and differential for the system.
The suggestion is to put the default font for: "Play Font".
Information
[*]Author: Jonas Hecksher (www.playtype.com)
[*]Type: Sans Serif
[*]License: OFL - Open Font License. (scripts.sil.org/OFL)
The SIL Open Font License (OFL) is a free, libre and open source license specifically designed for fonts and related software based on our experience in font design and linguistic software engineering.
Complementary
Information (by Google)
www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Play
Direct Download (by Google)
www.google.com/fonts/download?kit=Mat9jjaGl30cVQsXDnNShw
I use "Play Font" with value 9 and is a very pretty font.
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Hi guys, I am realy enjoying my freshly installed Slitaz 5.0 RC1! Many thanks for the good work!
NFS issue here though:
# mount -t nfs nfs-server:/mount/in/exports/ place/to/mountnfs -o tcp,nolock,nfsvers=3
mount.nfs: Protocol not supported
In Debian I would probably solve this by installing "nfs.common" package. How is this done in Slitaz?
I installed nfs-utils already, and I see no other nfs related packeges out there. The server side should be ok, it's been up and running for linux users for years now.
Thanks!
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@Tuna130
My guess is that your server uses NFS protocol version 4, which is not currently built at all in the SliTaz linux kernel. I'm not sure why not.
Your short term solution would be to recompile the kernel with the option CONFIG_NFS_V4 set, given that you're trying to run it as a client. However, this could further be diagnosed if you know what version of the NFS protocol that your server is using.
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Why in file ~.config/slitaz/subox.conf is writen my root pasword In human readable form? Isn't this a securitie issue?
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@Tuna130
Do you have portmap installed and running? I don't install nfs-utils unless I'm installing a nfs server.
@nger
subox.conf is there only as a convenience for users that are willing to give up some security in exchange for not having to type in the root password in [c]tazbox su[/c]
Remove the root password from subox.conf, uncheck [c]Autosave password[/c] from [c]tazbox su[/c] next time it opens before you type in the password.
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Hi nger,
It will not be a security issue if you do not want this.
Please, check permissions of this file. They should be as follows:
[*]read file: only owner;
[*]write file: only owner;
[*]execute file: nobody.
Check your user is owner of this file. That's all! Now no one other user have ability to read content of this file (you know, root user can).
In addition, best practice is to check permissions of your whole home folder. Here all the same as above (read & write: only owner), but you need to set "execute: only owner" too. In this case "execution" of folder is ability of watching its content, all files and folders it contains. So, no one other user of your system do not touch your files.
But if your hardware have ability to boot other operating system, then these rules will not works. And better you follow mojo's advice.
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@necrophcodr
Thanks man, for looking into this! Command nfsstat on the server comes back with nfs v3. So, then the NFS client should just work, right? Any ideas?
Could anyone confirm that their nfs client is working in this RC, and I am a donkey?
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QupZilla! Great browser! Glad it was made available!
How can I install the missing icons (home, foward, back, etc)?
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@mojo. Yep, both rpcbind and portmap up and running.
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Hi all,
I struggle hours with the kernel but it has had the last word :-(
In the text file attached:
- unable to run a full install from my SD card
- no sound with 5.0-rc1?
- notes on TazPanel
- notes on PCManFM
- various
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^
Since version 1.2 the option in main menu: "Tools" > "Open Current Folder as Root",
is removed due to security considerations....lol
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any chance to downgrade pcmanfm to 1.1.x.x in Slitaz 5 ?
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