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#1 2014-05-12 11:35:23

MrAccident
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SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

Hello.

I switched from Windows to Puppy Linux a short time ago. I'm really obsessed with efficiency. I learned a lot, mostly from Youtube videos, about the smallest Linux distros. I already tried and learned about quite a few. SliTaz came up too of course; but somehow didn't make an impression; also because of the reviewers. I was ready to move to AntiX, hopefully for the last time; when I somehow got to a comparison of some site, that gave the first place to SliTaz; so I decided to try it. And although some things didn't work - it was amazing! In 35mb there seems to be a whole operating system; only without the specialized programs; also with some of those. And extremely fast; and seems that the CPU usage is at the bottom; it's not so much in Puppy. Also in Puppy I really hate their choice of applications; here - everything looks and feels pretty good out of the box. Also tried Tiny Core; and the version with support for languages - was 64mb and hardly had anything in it; and was very hard to get things to work. So although usually I just move on from something where things don't work from the beginning - I really would love to get it to work and making it my OS; I'm really not one of those people who say things like "this is one of my favorite distros..."; I just want ONE.

Hope this life story interested someone, and didn't bore you to death.

Anyway... the screen of the OS was very small on the monitor; I couldn't even stretch it enough with the monitor's options. So I searched the web for a solution, and found an advice to install the Xvesa version (3.0); so I did, and it recognized the monitor.

So my question is - what can I do in version 4.0 about it?

Another question is - can I somehow install FireFox 29 on SliTaz 4.0? I read somewhere instructions of installing the latest FireFox version on SliTaz 3.0.

And another problem was with VLC. I downloaded only the main program. The videos were black&white and on the left half of the program's window.

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#2 2014-05-12 13:20:32

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

try rolling - is much better with X than 4.0

if it does not work post the output of

lspci | grep VGA

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#3 2014-05-12 13:33:18

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

By "rolling" - you mean 5.0, cooking, or something else?

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#4 2014-05-12 14:13:11

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

@MrAccident

By rolling I'm guessing he means rolling. Not 5.0 (although rolling will eventually be what 5.0 is set out to be, then it'll be 6.0, and so on. rolling is ahead of cooking, and "bleeding edge" if you will, although slitaz is hardly bleeding edge).

It is available in the mirrors. Here, for instance: http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/

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#5 2014-05-12 14:38:18

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

Nope; didn't recognize my monitor. Still a small screen with a too high resolution.

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#6 2014-05-12 18:13:49

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

and what is about

lspci | grep VGA

and maybe attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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#7 2014-05-12 18:46:54

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

Oops; forgor, sorry.

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV730 XT [Radeon HD 4670]

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#8 2014-05-12 19:57:55

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

you have to install the ati driver with tazx as root

see:

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:xorg-xvesa

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/help-configuring-default-screen-resolution

you run Slitaz from CD-Rom or stick?

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#9 2014-05-13 20:30:00

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

CD.

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#10 2014-05-13 21:42:25

kultex
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

and the links - did you try?

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#11 2014-05-13 22:24:01

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

I'm trying to do what this page says; but nothing happens when I put those lines into the terminal. Also in the terminal - all lines start with "tux@slitaz:~$". Maybe that's the problem?

So in the beginning it says "To set-up the free ATI drivers, install the AGP & DRM modules, then use the SliTaz Hardware Configuration tool:"

And then there are commend lines:

# tazpkg get-install linux-agp

# tazpkg get-install linux-drm

# tazhw setup ati

Am I suppose to put those lines into the terminal together, separately and click Enter, or something else?

And am I suppose to first download the drivers or do those commends do that?

I'm not exactly sure what they mean; do they recommend to try "Radeon" first?

They say - "There are two drivers available, the Xorg-provided radeon and the ATI-provided, non-free catalyst. The ati driver should be tried first as this has been compiled for SliTaz, whereas the ATI-supplied driver is a binary blob that tries to fit each and every Linux distribution."

"The ati driver should be tried first". They are both Ati drivers! Maybe it's a mistake?

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#12 2014-05-14 06:20:05

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

first you have to get root with

su

and then password: root

then run tazx

select the ati driver

and log out - that starts X new

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#13 2014-05-14 06:27:41

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

tazpkg get-install linux-agp

tazpkg get-install linux-drm

tazhw setup ati

All those commands need to be run as the root user, (with an internet connection), in a terminal & press enter after each command.

(If you are running from a livecd, they will be 'lost' on rebooting.)

#14 2014-05-14 17:58:54

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

When I type "su" in the terminal - appears a line that says "password: ". When I click on the keyboard keys or click the middle mouse button after selecting text - nothing happens. The only key that works - seems to be Enter: which of course leads to the next line being - "su: incorrect password". Happens in both terminals.

Maybe I need permission to write the password? Catch-22?!

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#15 2014-05-14 18:20:04

necrophcodr
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

@MrAccident

Just type "root". That's the root password, which you should enter when prompted. The password will NOT be displayed when entering.

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#16 2014-05-14 22:20:26

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

Copied from terminal:

tux@slitaz:~$ tazpkg get-install linux-agp

You must be root to run tazpkg with this option.

Please type 'su' and root password to become super-user.

tux@slitaz:~$ su root tazpkg get-install linux-agp

Password:

su: incorrect password

tux@slitaz:~$ su tazpkg get-install linux-agp

su: unknown user tazpkg

tux@slitaz:~$ root tazpkg get-install linux-agp

/bin/sh: root: not found

tux@slitaz:~$

I think I went through all options.

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#17 2014-05-14 23:44:04

sixofeight
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

@MrAccident

tux@slitaz:~$ su

press enter

Password:

type root ,  press enter

now you should have this:

root@slitaz:/home/tux#

now type your commands

root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg get-install linux-agp

press enter

and so on.....

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#18 2014-05-14 23:51:44

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

I wrote two posts ago, that I can't type anything when presented with "Password:".

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#19 2014-05-15 00:02:35

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

and necrophcodr told you that you wont see what you are typing..

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#20 2014-05-15 01:47:27

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

OK, now I understood. It installed the first part; but then I wanted to install Slitaz to disk, so I won't lose the settings; and again a problem.

I formated the partition with ext4, installed grub; basically nothing special.

When I boot - I get to SliTaz's boot menu; when I click Enter or let the time pass - there is "error 15 - file not found"; something like that.

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#21 2014-05-16 08:04:20

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

'Error 15 - file not found' means your grub boot loader can't find your grub config file.

When you install SliTaz to your hard drive, you should have the grub boot loader written to the MBR, (unless you are dual booting). On rebooting, it will use the newly installed grub config file.

#22 2014-05-16 19:24:34

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

I thought that maybe the problem has to do with Puppy's installation - on the other drive; so I unplugged Puppy's drive and installed SliTaz again.

There was an error 21 - the disk wasn't found.

After a web search - I found the idea to change in "boot" - "menu" file - "hd1,0" to "hd0,0"; so I did. Now it seems to start to boot; but very soon - the screen says it's going to shot down to save energy, and then does so; and nothing happens any more.

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#23 2014-05-23 18:25:04

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

Yes to boot from the disk it needs grub to point to it, hd0,0 is the first hard drive.

It could be worth checking to see that /etc/fstab is trying to load from the right disk also, should be /dev/sda1.

#24 2014-05-23 18:43:14

MrAccident
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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

First of all - thank you all for trying to help.

The text in fstab is:

# /etc/fstab: Information about static filesystems.

#

proc            /proc        proc    defaults          0       0

sysfs           /sys         sysfs   defaults          0       0

devpts          /dev/pts     devpts  rw,gid=5,mode=0620 0       0

tmpfs           /dev/shm     tmpfs   defaults          0       0

#/dev/hda3       /home        ext3    defaults          0       2

#/dev/hdb1       /mnt/data    ext3    defaults          0       2

What is suppose to be in /dev/sda1?

SliTaz is on hdb; sda is the other hard-drive.

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#25 2014-05-24 13:51:52

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Re: SliTaz 4.0 doesn't recognize my screen.

When you first boot to the grub menu, press 'e' to edit, press 'e' again & check that the right disk is trying to be accessed.

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