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Hi all,
Here is a RC to test: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/5.0/slitaz-5.0-rc3.iso
Unfortunately I do not have time to test everything.
There probably has lot bugs. Please report any bugs on the forum or on http://bug.slitaz.org.
Try to be precise in describing the bugs so that developers can reproduce and fix them.
If you experience problems with Tazpanel or Tazpkg have a look here: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/new-version-of-packages-manager-tazpkg-testing-needed
It might be well to say what you testerca ahbitude's possible to make a sort of checklist for future releases.
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Thanks very much, erjo. Yes, one or more new 'stable' RCs are urgently needed to get 5.0 final out of the door sometime later this year ... after which work on 6.0 can begin with an updated tool-chain :-) I will try out your ISO tonight. But I've also got some questions: No build log? What is this build based on and how does it differ from the latest rolling release?
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I'm working on my own little projects, but I did create a test partition just for SliTaz. Might reformat my drive to structure it better though. Will give this version a spin to see what bugs need fixing.
My current goal is to generate a newer base image I can build on using SliTaz's packages. I also want to create an apt driven script that can install and strip debian packages without breaking or overriding SliTaz ones (unless forced). It will prefer Debian over Ubuntu since I want to avoid bloatware, but it will give access to Launchpad packages, which should be awesome.
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Thank you guys.
No build. I just forgot to redirect output in a logfile. The next time.
This ISO is build on my own buildhost with tazlito.
The rolling release is built after every package update.
In this RC i have juste install Xombrero instead of Midori browser.
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sorry.. at the very first click, the mouse pointer disappeared.. again 
The only new thing I see, xxxterm and 1 single rootfs.. thats it?
@Trixar, I contacted that guy from ex-dcore, and together we improved the whole ubuntu idea, now we have a base of 70MB of squashfs with X+flux+leafpad+pcmanfm+alsa(full+firmwares)+network+wireless(full+all firmwares files!!)+opera12 web+essential utils - compiled NOTHING 
That just as base, upon which we add whatever from ubuntu repo, or compile everything wish.
We found the squashfs solution extremely useful for live purpose, because it saves practically all memory...if you didn't,I would suggest to activate that feature in your next kernel
About the "bloatware" in the debian repo, well, its just the same as in ubuntu, simply less choices, isnt it..? )
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@escaper
Look like you never tried tazlito or tazusb.
> the mouse pointer disappeared
I know at least two solutions:
Install video driver
# tazx auto
Or using builtin ponters (black with white borders)
# tazpkg remove slitaz-polar-cursors
> squashfs
Me dropped using tinycore4 exactly because it using squashfs, which is dangerous for hdd health. If no more free memory, slitaz will just launch OOM-killer. But squashfs-based system will try to read disk again and again, with defragment-like sounds. And it's impossible to eject boot media with squashfs-based.
@erjo
> xombrero
I think it is a bad idea, it's not user-frienly and can't be called secure with deprecated webkit and browsing history here: ~/.local/share/webkit. About memory usage - even firefox uses less RAM.
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escaper: Impressive. Link to the iso please 
I still want to do the same with SliTaz and add a buildroot compiled base. I don't want to replace tazpkg, but provide a way to install debian alternative.
And no. Depending on the package, Ubuntu might install way more junk than it needs to - like adding Upstart entries and a the Kernel trying to drag several hundred dependencies that it really doesn't need like Mono. Debian doesn't do that because it doesn't use the same apps - so smaller package installs and less junk to remove post install.
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@az_ua, sorry, but last month I tested rc2, and there was the same mouse issues, now again, I was suggested as you said, but no solution, it is somewhere in your forum.
I gave rc3 a try only for curiosity, didn't really expect anything more that that, I understood well enough how things going here, so no prob thanks anyway
About xxxterm (alias xombrero), here our hint, in case you interested: yes, it is the smallest webbrowser existing deb precompiled in the ubuntu repos, but indeed the less user friendly... for that reason we had to switch to opera repo, they give precompiled deb opera12 there, which is only 12 MB, smaller than xxxterm and much better!
About squashfs, yes you right, you cant umount the fs where are the squashfs... but thats ok, because that same fs provides the space for the persistence in our opinion its a very small price to pay to have all your memory dedicated only to your running programs (and not by static useless files!)
@trixar, about iso,of course there is no iso! ) what we did so far, you could call it a dcore fork from which we kicked away tinycore without mercy! hehe )
Ok, by now we structured it focusing only on old pc specs=slow cpu+small memory+live ...so no install,no swap, and persistence on whatever media you can mount
It is made of the following files: original kernel file from lubuntu (utopic iso), 2 matrioska rootfs, one containing a smaller subset of lubuntu modules,and the other containing the dcore init scripts modded by us all booted simply by syslinux from a fat32 usb key... then follow the squashfs files, 1 for every app.
How we did it... ahh, thats a whole other story..
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I just gave RC3 a spin. Not bad. Needs a little fixing, but nice work all round.
escaper: Been talking to Brian - the guy that talked about his wishlist for the new SliTaz 5. We've been working on a few installer scripts (maybe later meta packages) that runs installs and removal of packages to shape SliTaz into a flavour we'd like. We want to use the Buildroot base using mdev to see how well it works. It still needs the injection of the current SliTaz scripts to be complete, but so far I've actually produced one that boots - not much else except cli, but pretty good for me half-arsing around with it.
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@trixar, I really look forward to test your prototype, because I have the feeling it is a better move for Slitaz... Slitaz as is now, is simply too hard to maintain, isn't it?
What we wanted to achieve with our dcore fork, was find a working methodology to fix the mess into the debs, so to fit into something much smaller,faster and modular.
So to free us from the typical issues of any minor distro, such as Slitaz, which can always drop maintenance, fall asleep or close...
The same methodology we can apply to every ubuntu/debian new release coming out, and it allows to create always the bleeding edge new kernel release in a couple of days efforts.
Not to mention the huge possibilities open by that, just for example, we can leak from every ubuntu/debian repo official/unofficial/free/not-free/and so on, on Earth
The other guy is very satisfied about what we did so far, me too, but as I said I also would personally like to see YOUR solution... before taking my final side hehe
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Hi,
I tried to install rc3 on a vfat partition with TazPanel. No error message but when I had a look at the partition, if the filesystem seemed to be correctly copied, there was absolutely no folder/file in /home (not sure it can be usefull but I attached tazinst.log to the post).
Kernel panic at boot.
RC3 installed on the same partition formated ext4 boots without any problem.
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Hi guys!
I tested RC3 as a normal user, using first the Live CD mode.
General conclusion: very nice! No major bugs.
Pros:
- only 1 rootfs.gz file (I think it's better than 4 parts);
- TazPanel and TazPackage are working very fast;
- pre-build mouse config for left-handed people (no need to manually config it using the terminal).
Cons:
- as someone said before, xombrero isn't very user-friendly;
- Brazilian Portuguese interface is not completely translated (just a minor issue);
- I tried to install LibreOffice and OpenOffice, but they doesn't install. After downloading, terminal shows a message "Compressing file system..." and it stucks here. After 15 minutes, I cancelled the install process. My PC has 1,5GB of RAM, so I think that space isn't the problem. Other packs were installed without problems.
When I have some free time I'll test RC3 into VirtualBox.
Have a nice day!
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Hi Genesis
pre-build mouse config for left-handed people (no need to manually config it using the terminal).
You really interest me. Where did you find this? I've had an accident last week and my rigth arm is completely immobilized for weeks.
I followed this topic and then your doc but I can't arrive to make the changes permanent.
First, I don't have any ~/.config/autostart directory (I use last rolling); I created it and create file xmodmap.desktop inside but it doesn't change anything.
So I launch the command manually at each boot...
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Input Device Preferences
Applications/Preferences/Keyboard and Mouse
or from terminal: [c]lxinput[/c]
Check box for Left handed (Swap left and right mouse buttons)
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I am left-handed since I was born.
But I've never swapped the mouse-buttons.
If I do that, it's much worse...lol
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Hi folks! 
I tested RC3 into Virtualbox. Installation occured without problems. Translations working fine. System working fine. Nice job!
Pros and cons are the same.
@Ceel
Follow mojo's instructions to setup your mouse buttons. (Thanks mojo!)
I checked ~/.config/autostart and /etc/xdg/autostart and both do exist in RC3. I'm not sure about the latest rolling, but the procedure of FAQ page is working at RC3 presented by erjo at the first post of this topic.
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Hi mojo + Genesis,
Thanks to both of you; I'm now a little more valid.
Don't know why I didn't think to look in Preferences by myself, it seems to me so evident now; probably head is also affected ;-)
No ~/.config/autostart in rolling but it has been created after I selected Left handed in Preferences; is in RC3.
@ Genesis,
I've some free time during the weeks to come, I'm going to have a look at your problem with Office installation
Thanks again.
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Hi all
Tested and impressed
Better than 4.0:
- sound is detected and I don't have to go to alsaconf to adjust my laptop volume never again
- no keymap dialog in live which is really good
- love it: pcmanfm usb device(s) detected dialog
- edit: tazusb works perfectly
Missing/bug:
- WIFI
I use Mojo's wl tazpkg previously at Slitaz 4.00
here is the dmesg | grep br
#brcmsmac 0000:07:00.0: bus 7 slot 0 func 0 irq 23
#brcmsmac 0000:07:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
#brcmsmac 0000:07:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
#ieee80211 phy0: brcmsmac: fail to load firmware brcm/bcm43xx-0.fw
#ieee80211 phy0: brcmsmac: Failed to find firmware usually in /lib/firmware/brcm
#brcmsmac 0000:07:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
#brcmsmac: brcms_pci_probe: brcms_attach failed!
and here is dmesg from Slitaz 4.00 on my hardware:
wl: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
wl 0000:07:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
wl 0000:07:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
INFO @wl_cfg80211_attach : Registered CFG80211 phy
lib80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'TKIP'
eth1: Broadcom BCM4727 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 5.100.82.112
I can't test internet related feature for now.
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More tests done today. No bugs found. Cabled (ADSL) internet features are working fine: connection, navigation, download, download/install packs, etc.
I'm unable to test wifi because I only have ADSL connection.
Im my opinion, RC3 is good and stable enough to be annouced at main page as the new Slitaz 5.0 RC-3.
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I'm able to compile broadcom linux sta 32 bit driver and produce wl.ko, so I'm connected via WIFI now.
However, I don't understand how to succesfully pack it as lzma. I just copy paste it over /lib wireless driver folder. Yep, dirty hack.
http://mirror.slitaz.org/packages/5.0/broadcom-wl-5_100_82_112_3.2.53.tazpkg
modprobe -r brcmsmac
modprobe wl
iwconfig eth1 up
iwconfig txpower auto
running wifi box:
got a small error when doing grep SSID name. Apparently because there is a space in my SSID name.
but connected well despite these error.
Internet related app:
- installed OLD opera successfully
- installed Chrome via get-google-chrome succesfully, I can watch youtube alright
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#ieee80211 phy0: brcmsmac: fail to load firmware brcm/bcm43xx-0.fw
#ieee80211 phy0: brcmsmac: Failed to find firmware usually in /lib/firmware/brcm
bcm43xx-0.fw
ftp://cook.slitaz.org/firmware/install/lib/firmware/brcm/bcm43xx-0.fw
https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211
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thank you dear alanyih, I'll try that this weekend )
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ops, forgot to report bug in pcmanfm as root
trash is empty after 'Move to trash'
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Hi lego,
You're right. Yet have a look in /root/.local/share/Trash/files and you can see the deleted files are there.
Now, close the root Xsession and open it again as root; trash now works correctly...
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Hello dear Ceel mod, thanks for quick fix.
also I just noticed that we have tazpkg now. Thank you so much for doing that )
@alanyih: I don't know how but modprobe brcmsmac produce these error:
(I copied the ftp file to lib/firmware/brcm folder)
cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
brcmsmac 0000:07:00.0: bus 7 slot 0 func 0 irq 23
brcmsmac 0000:07:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
brcmsmac 0000:07:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
ieee80211 phy0: brcms_check_firmwares: non integral fw hdr file size 96224/12
ieee80211 phy0: brcmsmac: Failed to find firmware usually in /lib/firmware/brcm
brcmsmac 0000:07:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
brcmsmac: brcms_pci_probe: brcms_attach failed!
perhaps brcmsmac is not yet stable or somehow I did something wrong..
#ieee80211 phy0: brcmsmac: Failed to find firmware usually in /lib/firmware/brcm
but the file is there.
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