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Used: slitaz-rolling.iso (2015-Dec-27 00:46:36)
Boot: Live CD, Core-Live
1) [c]tazpkg pack[/c] changes/corrupts existing /fs tree
This is not a new issue as it has already been a problem in SliTaz 3.0 and possibly even before that. When [c]tazpkg pack[/c] is used to create a package from an existing /fs tree it changes the timestamps of all directories and sub-directories in the tree. And, as if that wasn't bad enough, it also changes user and group of all files and directories to [c]root:root[/c] if there happen to be /home/tux/... files and directories in the tree, which of course messes up the resulting package as well.
I have a number of more or less static /fs trees that I use to create packages from (opera, redglass-cursors etc.). A couple of days ago I tried to improve the scripts that create the packages with something like this ...
[c]
# CSUM=$(tar c $SDIR/$PNAM/fs | md5sum | cut -d " " -f 1)
CSUM=$(ls -alR $SDIR/$PNAM/fs | md5sum | cut -d " " -f 1)
if [ "$CSUM" != "$PSUM" ]; then
echo "The checksums do not match!"
echo "The calculated sum is: $CSUM"
echo ""
exit 1
fi
[/c]
... to verify the integrity of the /fs tree. But alas, it worked only once because after each run of the script the md5 sum of the tree was a different one.
I'm sure it won't be easy to solve this problem as it lies at the heart of the whole tazpkg thingy. I don't expect it either as it is too special and doesn't affect normal operations of the package manager. But I'm wondering what it is that causes the problem? Is it the use of cpio? Would tar be better?
2) installed packages are not correctly counted and listed
All the issues I have listed here still persist, except for this one ...
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TazPanel My packages (manually counted, 500 lines pp) => 247
missing: xorg-xsetroot
missing: yad
present: zlib
[/c]
... which now correctly counts and lists zlib. But the other two "items" are still neither counted nor listed.
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Hi Darjeeling,
I can recall only one package with files not belongs to root. So, let's experiment with it.
Package "tazwikiss" files list: http://cook.slitaz.org/cooker.cgi?files=tazwikiss
As you can see, all the files inside the "/var/www/wiki" folder are belongs to user "www" group "www".
Let's repack "tazwikiss":
[c]$ cd /tmp
$ su
# repack tazwikiss[/c]
Let's extract repacked package:
[c]# tazpkg extract tazwikiss-250.tazpkg[/c]
Let's list all packages files in the long format:
[c]# find tazwikiss-250/fs -type f | xargs ls -l
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 221 Дек 21 13:55 tazwikiss-250/fs/usr/share/applications/tazcalc.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 205 Дек 21 13:55 tazwikiss-250/fs/usr/share/applications/tazwikiss.desktop
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 579 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/config-de.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 606 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/config-fr.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 522 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/config.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 16780 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/index.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 712 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Accueil.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 1326 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/AideCalc.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 2461 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/AideTables.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 4205 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Aide.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 918 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Calc.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 1277 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/HelpCalc.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 2416 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/HelpTables.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 4139 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Help.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 595 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Welcome.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 4308 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Admin.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 478 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Calc.css
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 5746 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Calc.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 1751 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_FullScreen.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 2043 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Password.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 1203 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Rss.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 1611 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Tables.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 2586 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Upload.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 2075 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/style.css
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 1282 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/template.html[/c]
As you can see, files still belongs to "www:www".
Now remove repacked package and pack it from extracted fs tree, remove tree and restore it from packed package:
[c]# rm tazwikiss-250.tazpkg
# tazpkg pack tazwikiss-250
# rm -r tazwikiss-250
# tazpkg extract tazwikiss-250.tazpkg[/c]
Let's see files list:
[c]# find tazwikiss-250/fs -type f | xargs ls -l
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 221 Дек 21 13:55 tazwikiss-250/fs/usr/share/applications/tazcalc.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 205 Дек 21 13:55 tazwikiss-250/fs/usr/share/applications/tazwikiss.desktop
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 579 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/config-de.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 606 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/config-fr.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 522 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/config.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 16780 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/index.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 712 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Accueil.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 1326 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/AideCalc.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 2461 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/AideTables.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 4205 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Aide.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 918 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Calc.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 1277 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/HelpCalc.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 2416 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/HelpTables.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 4139 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Help.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 595 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/pages/Welcome.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 4308 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Admin.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 478 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Calc.css
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 5746 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Calc.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 1751 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_FullScreen.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 2043 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Password.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 1203 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Rss.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 1611 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Tables.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 2586 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/plugins/wkp_Upload.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 2075 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/style.css
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www www 1282 Ноя 7 02:36 tazwikiss-250/fs/var/www/wiki/template.html[/c]
So, we ended with next: "tazpkg repack" and "tazpkg pack" stores files permissions and ownership.
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Your script makes you headache because "[c]ls -alR[/c]" lists "." and ".." items that can change its timestamp, but it is not an error, and it not touch content and timestamp and permissions/ownership of any file inside fs tree.
Please, change it to "[c]ls -AlR[/c]" to exclude "." and ".." and try again.
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2) installed packages are not correctly counted and listed
missing: xorg-xsetroot
missing: yad
A] Try to find "xorg-xsetroot" and "yad" inside /var/lib/tazpkg/installed.info and inside /var/lib/tazpkg/installed:
[c]grep "^xorg-xsetroot"$'\t' /var/lib/tazpkg/installed.info
grep "^yad"$'\t' /var/lib/tazpkg/installed.info
ls /var/lib/tazpkg/installed/xorg-xsetroot
ls /var/lib/tazpkg/installed/yad[/c]
Does all four commands not fails?
B] Try to get tazpkg info for "xorg-xsetroot" and "yad":
[c]tazpkg info xorg-xsetroot
tazpkg info yad[/c]
Does all two commands output that specified packages are installed?
C] Try to fresh reinstall "xorg-xsetroot" and "yad":
[c]# tazpkg -gi xorg-xsetroot --forced
# tazpkg -gi yad --forced[/c]
Please try again A] and B].
And please post all the outputs here.
And I very hope that you're using actual versions of the TazPkg and TazPanel...
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Another bug for tazpkg Version: 5.3.4
root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg remove xorg-xkeyboard-config
The following packages depend on package "xorg-xkeyboard-config":
xorg-server
xorg-setxkbmap
Remove package "xorg-xkeyboard-config" (2.2.1)? (y/N) y
Removing package "xorg-xkeyboard-config"
================================================================================
Removing all files installed... [ Done ]
Removing package receipt... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "xorg-xkeyboard-config" (2.2.1) removed.
Remove packages depending on package "xorg-xkeyboard-config"? (y/N) y
tazpkg remove xorg-server
tazpkg remove xorg-setxkbmap
root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg remove xorg-server
The following packages depend on package "xorg-server":
xorg-xf86-input-synaptics
Remove package "xorg-server" (1.12.4)? (y/N) y
Removing package "xorg-server"
================================================================================
Removing all files installed... [ Done ]
Removing package receipt... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "xorg-server" (1.12.4) removed.
Remove packages depending on package "xorg-server"? (y/N) n
root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg remove xorg-setxkbmap
Remove package "xorg-setxkbmap" (1.3.0)? (y/N) y
Removing package "xorg-setxkbmap"
================================================================================
Removing all files installed... [ Done ]
Removing package receipt... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "xorg-setxkbmap" (1.3.0) removed.
root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg remove xorg-xkbcomp
Remove package "xorg-xkbcomp" (1.2.3)? (y/N) y
Removing package "xorg-xkbcomp"
================================================================================
Removing all files installed... [ Done ]
Removing package receipt... [ Done ]
================================================================================
Package "xorg-xkbcomp" (1.2.3) removed.
Cannot autoremove dependency...
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Hi gibor,
Unfortunately, tazpkg you mentioned (and, maybe, used) is too old. Version 5.3.4 was released 9 month ago. Bug you described here has long been fixed.
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Dont so.. but the test is on slitaz5-rc3 last relese downloaded one mount old.
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gibor,
SliTaz RC-3 was released in May, 20 2015 (proof link: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/5.0/ ).
It is not actual anymore.
To test tazpkg please use actual version.
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Sorry, but I try to test last slitaz release... if on it content packages are broken, anymore not is choose good..
at least have waste my time!
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I feel sorry for your lost time.
Latest SliTaz releases called "SliTaz Rolling" or "SliTaz Weekly". You can find them here:
http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/
Read the message in the bottom of that page to choose your ISO.
I advice you to use "slitaz-rolling-core.iso" or "slitaz-rolling.iso" if you unsure.
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Hi gibor,
RC is for Release _Candidate_: so it may have bugs, this is normal!
:-)
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I added README file to the folder: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/5.0/
to not to waste anymore anyone's time.
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Hi Aleksej!
Your idea of adding a Readme at mirror page is very good.
Is it possible to add that text to the home page of SliTaz, "Quick Download" section? By doing this we could help new (and old) users to downloading the most recent version (Weekly).
Have a nice day, man!
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Hi Genesis,
Thanks 
I wish you a nice day too!
I just saw http://www.slitaz.org/en/ and http://www.slitaz.org/en/get/ and want greatly change the pages.
http://www.slitaz.org/en/
Section "Latest Release" is confusing.
Section "Quick Download": SliTaz RC-3 should be removed from here.
http://www.slitaz.org/en/get/
Too many information. But that info is sparse and unstructured, I see no "main words" and I'm too lazy to read entire page content.
Section "LiveCD - Cooking version" should be changed to "Rolling".
I'll make the changes in a few days.
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Hi Aleksej,
can you read http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/making-packages-without-using-the-wok
I mentioned there that it might (I'm not sure) be useful to change from .cpio.lzma zipping of the fs folder for packages, to .tar.lzma zipping. Perhaps it's something that can be integrated ?
Also, can you tell me whether that cpio (or tar) zipping is really essential at all, or whether just lzma zipping can be done, or alternatively, not integrate any zipping at all (as the .tazpkg file is allready a single file anyway) ?
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Hi Genesis,
Now changes is on SliTaz web site:
[*]http://www.slitaz.org/
[*]http://www.slitaz.org/get/
Should I change something else?
Hi linuxscripts,
whether just lzma zipping can be done
No. LZMA can pack only single file (or stream). You need to archive your files together using TAR or CPIO. TazPkg uses CPIO and don't use TAR.
Summary: TazPkg uses CPIO to "glue" files together, and uses LZMA to compress "glued" file.
SliTaz ".tazpkg" package anatomy:
Folder "fs" archived using CPIO and archived using LZMA; output is fs.cpio.lzma.
Files "fs.cpio.lzma", "receipt", "files.list", "md5sum", "description.txt" archived together using CPIO; output is package.tazpkg.
Note, GZIP can be used instead of LZMA (producing fs.cpio.gz) for faster package packing and poorer compression grade and bigger package size.
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Dear Aleksej,
Having rolling instead of RC3 for direct download makes much sense. :-)
If I may suggest, you should update as well this web page (http://www.slitaz.org/en/news/) with something like:
01 Jan 2016 - Due to huge improvements, SliTaz 5.0 RC-3 is not available anymore. Please download the latest slitaz_rolling with this link. <and give the link to rolling file>.
Thank you so much for your work.
Best,
Stephane
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Hi Aleksej,
http://www.slitaz.org/get/ returns Not Found The requested URL /get/ was not found on this server. Good link is http://www.slitaz.org/en/get/
Why no link to
SliTaz Rolling release (weekly) - 03 Jan 2016
at http://www.slitaz.org/en/ (and other languages)?
Have a nice evening.
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Hi Aleksej!
Your work at Slitaz pages is excellent!
If it isn't asking too much, at "Welcome to SliTaz" section at www.slitaz.org, we could add a second line of text:
"SliTaz is a 'rolling release' Linux, updated weekly with new functionalities and corrections."
And at "Quick Download" section:
"Slitaz Weekly (32 and 64 bits) is the latest and recommended version to download."
At www.slitaz.org/en/get , I have no more suggestions. The information there is now clear, direct, and simple to understand. ;D
I believe that with these little changes we can improve a lot the Slitaz website.
Have a nice day!
PS: sorry for any English mistakes...
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@Aleksej,
I all ready thought the archiving to a single file was the case cpio was used first.
Thanks for the other info as well (also didn't know fs was cpio'd and lzma'd, whereas receipt, files.list, md5sum, description.txt was then archived together using CPIO into filename.tazpkg
I understand the regular tazpkg thus requires cpio. However, isn't it possible with your tazpkg beta to also provide support for tar besides cpio (so support both) ? That way, packages can then also be made the same way (archiving fs using tar and lzma or gzip, and putting fs together with receipt, files.list, md5sum, description.txt into filename.tazpkg using tar ? I think that would be an improvement, since as mentioned, windows doesn't have good cpio archivers, so making tazpackages on windows is much more difficult; also even on linux, tar is better supported (with regular gui-based compression utilities, not via commmand line)
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Hi linuxscripts,
I understand the regular tazpkg thus requires cpio. However, isn't it possible with your tazpkg beta to also provide support for tar besides cpio (so support both) ?
I have to disappoint you. Tazpkg beta, or Tazpkg test development is discontinued on the third page of this topic. And here the link FYI:
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/tazpkg-beta-needs-testing/page/3#post-39873
Many thanks to all who participated in the testing!
From now package "tazpkg-test" discontinued, and maybe used in the future to test some extremely updates.
I should like to close this topic for a long time, not to be confuse anyone.
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TazPkg now is (relatively) stable. Format of packages we using is here for a long years. I not plan to change package format because I see no point in it. We use package format fulfilled SliTaz needs.
I don't get your idea, why you use Windows to develop SliTaz packages.
Even if I'll provide TAR support, even if you learn how to make SliTaz packages, even if you write your own scripts to make your SliTaz packages in the Windows — your packages will be definitely bad. I can tell you why.
I doubt windows' archiving tools supporting Linux file system attributes: files permissions and ownership. Most files should be owned by root; some content of /var/www is owned by user www. Executable files should have rwxr-xr-x (755) permissions, regular files: rw-r--r-- (644), regular folders rwxr-xr-x (755). Some files in /etc is rw------- (600).
When I mount my ntfs partition, all files and folders inside it have permissions rwxrwxrwx (755), this mean: anyone can read, write and execute any file. I doubt it is good.
And now I close the topic: it fulfilled it's mission. Even more.
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