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#1 2015-12-27 10:36:54

oui
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Registered: 2012-09-05
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PC become warm and fan runs terribly

I did become this year the old laptop from son (DELL XPS 8x i7-2670QM @ 2.2, 8 GB / 750 GB 1920x1080). It is better as my old PC (DELL Optiplex SX280 Pentium 1 GB / 500 GB alt. Laptop ACER emachines E620 AMD64 2 GB / 160 GB) and can remplace both (the emachines has a limited resolution! the Optiplex has a limited power...)

but my problem in SliTaz: the fan runs immediately intensively, the air become very warm, so I am afraid that SliTaz can be dangerous for it?

I am using SliTaz with 64 kernel.

in Ubuntu (64 bit 16.04), the XPS can run hours / all the day without any heat developement and you hear the fan extremly rarely. Idem with the most Linux versions I am trying sometimes.

what is to check, what is to do?

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#2 2015-12-27 13:12:22

az_ua
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Registered: 2014-05-02
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

[c]tazpkg get-install linux64-cpufreq[/c]

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#3 2015-12-27 22:47:10

oui
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

Thank you!

a/ why not immediately in the Iso?

b/ I did restart. No differenz... man linux64-cpufreq > No manual entry for linux64-cpufreq

Is somewhat to do?

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#4 2015-12-28 04:30:05

sixofeight
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Registered: 2013-07-02
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

Try this:

modprobe cpufreq_ondemand

if no issues:

for config_file in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor; do echo ondemand >$config_file

done

check if the cpu slows down:

grep '^cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo

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#5 2015-12-28 15:13:00

oui
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Registered: 2012-09-05
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

Hi sixofeight

Thank you very much.

Result (not really comprehensive for me):

@slitaz:~$ modprobe cpufreq_ondemand

@slitaz:~$ for config_file in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_gove

rnor; do echo ondemand >$config_file

> done

/bin/sh: can't create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor: nonexistent directory

@slitaz:~$ grep '^cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo

cpu MHz        : 2194.970

cpu MHz        : 2194.970

cpu MHz        : 2194.970

cpu MHz        : 2194.970

cpu MHz        : 2194.970

cpu MHz        : 2194.970

cpu MHz        : 2194.970

cpu MHz        : 2194.970

@slitaz:~$

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#6 2015-12-28 15:28:59

az_ua
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Registered: 2014-05-02
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

Show output of:

[c]lsmod[/c]

[c]lspci[/c]

[c]for i in $(ls /lib/modules/3.2.71-slitaz64/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/);do modprobe -av ${i/.ko.xz/};done[/c]
then you can try again

[c]grep '^cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo[/c]

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#7 2015-12-28 19:49:34

sixofeight
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Registered: 2013-07-02
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

Hi oui

Yep, you need to load the right "power-options" module for your CPU.

Mine is a AMD, so it looks like this

before:

root@slitaz:/home/tux# grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo

cpu MHz        : 2599.989

cpu MHz        : 2599.989

root@slitaz:/home/tux# modprobe powernow-k8

root@slitaz:/home/tux# modprobe cpufreq_ondemand

root@slitaz:/home/tux# for config_file in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/s

caling_governor; do

> echo ondemand >$config_file

> done

after:

root@slitaz:/home/tux# grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo

cpu MHz        : 1000.000

cpu MHz        : 1000.000

root@slitaz:/home/tux#

btw

cpufreq_ondemand = the cpu-Mhz will raise if needed and go down if idle.

oh,I forgot to say that I use the 32 bit version, hopefully it's the same for 64 bit.

(sorry for my bad english)

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#8 2015-12-28 21:53:11

kultex
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Registered: 2011-03-28
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

its a little bit old

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:cpu-frequency

why not to the iso - it was discussed - because it produces to much errors in log - I still vote to put it immediatly to the iso

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#9 2015-12-29 05:41:02

Arnabsat
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Registered: 2015-12-28
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

Does underclocking the CPU reduced overheating ?

Long time ago I faced a similar issue with 3.2 series kernel on Debian Wheezy 7.0, updating the kernel solved it. Are you using a Linux 3.2.X series kernel ?

Though this may be a little odd, does the Dell XPS laptop contains a discrete NVIDIA or Radeon GPU ? I'hv seen that laptop overheating problem is due to the the discrete GPU in 99% cases.

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#10 2015-12-29 08:18:03

sixofeight
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Registered: 2013-07-02
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Re: PC become warm and fan runs terribly

^

--> Does underclocking the CPU reduced overheating ? <--

My cpu (2600 Mhz) is (now) using the lowest speed step (1000 Mhz), 90% of Time, during normal work.

The cpu power consumption goes down from 89W to ~22W,

and even with activated "cool n quiet" the cpu temperature is at 25 deg C.

So yes it does.

Kernel = 3.2.71

btw.

cpu scaling is something different than simple underclocking

The available speed steps,(2600,2400,2200,1800,1000 Mhz,in my case)

are automatically dialed = on demand

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