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#1 2017-05-29 07:07:07

CaptainRookie
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No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

Slitaz looks great I have been able to try 3.0 (by dd method) but nothing recent.

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:liveusb

Says:

From any Linux distro

* You can use unetbootin; download from here.

But also says:

Tazusb.exe and Unetbootin do not work with any cooking.iso, rolling.iso or slitaz-4.0.iso (core 4-in-1) .

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A huge amount of people don't have optical drives anymore. How do people use a current version of Slitaz?

I think I have more patience than most and I've tried every Linux USB boot application I can get hold of.

The times I've tried to dd (or some other similar method (cp, ddrescue, imaging GUIs) it also doesn't work, I'm guessing they aren't ISO Hybrid files like every other Linux distribution I've tried.

Having official instructions that stop most people using most files is not going to win many people over.

I really want to try a new version of Slitaz, there must be a way, please update http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:liveusb so other Linux users don't give up on Slitaz before they can try it.

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#2 2017-05-29 12:52:00

Ceel
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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

Did you try this method?

http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-live-flash-drive-usb-installation-fails#post-43968

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#3 2017-05-29 13:10:58

bellard
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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/2.0/slitaz-2.0-isohybrid.iso

http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/3.0/slitaz-3.0-isohybrid.iso

http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/4.0/slitaz-4.0-isohybrid.iso

support http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-live-flash-drive-usb-installation-fails#post-43968 too

Edit:

1- fix links

2- every iso works with the dd method

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#4 2017-05-29 16:26:21

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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

I don't have Windows. I can't use the .exe method, with or without converting it first in Linux.

I don't mean 4.0, I mean 5.0 preferably rolling.

I have a lot of respect for the Slitaz developers but this is pretty un-usual, asking people to have both Windows and Linux. Or to have Windows or Slitaz in some cases.

Are ISO hybrids difficult to make on every ISO? (Honest question.)

Edit: The 4.0 you listed doesn't work, broken link.

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#5 2017-05-30 01:58:24

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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

If dd always works why have only some called "iso hybrid" and why not mention it in the instructions? So all isos are meant to work with the dd method, including recent ones without the words iso hybrid in the name?

What does 10 in 1 and 4 in 1 mean? Is "iso hybrid" one of those four and ten things?

I'm not trying to be rude its just very confusing?

Coverting isos to exes, using unet on some not others, not mentioning dd then having files called iso hybrid along with vague naming like 4 in 1 and and 10 in 1. It just doesn't seem logical or practical.

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#6 2017-05-30 10:39:49

Darjeeling
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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

Have a look here ...

https://pastebin.com/FUYjygij

... it's a tool I've been using for quite a while as it works well for me. I only just now added a help message to it to make clear what it does. Basically it downloads the latest Slitaz rolling iso, then loop-mounts it, extracts a rootfs, does some things with the rootfs, then compresses it again and generates a hybrid iso. Maybe if you use bits of the script to extract "core" rootfs and then make a hybrid iso ...?

But be careful. Do not run the script as it is because there are a lot of things in it that won't work for you ... gnu-wget is what it says ... toggle-seagate is a script to power-up/power-down, mount/unmount our 25+ year old 1GB hdd ... keyboard, language and time zone in isolinux.cfg have to be changed to your needs ... the same goes for the "Compressing rootfs ..." section of the script, where I have removed one or two "/media..." directories and added my own "seagate" directory ... etc. etc.

P.S.:

If you only want to have the original "core" rootfs for a new cd then there's no need to extract and re-compress it. In this case something like this ...

https://pastebin.com/sE85ntSS

... would be better for you. But again, don't run it as it is.

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#7 2017-05-30 22:17:04

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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

^ This is absolute madness, just to run an ISO.

(Not a knock on you, I guess your doing what you have to, short of buying a USB optical drive and burning endless CDs.)

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#8 2017-05-30 22:17:36

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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

Are 10 in 1's and 4 in 1's ISO Hybrids?

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#9 2017-05-31 18:23:59

Ceel
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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

@ CaptainRookie,

I don't have Windows.

Cool, why didn't you tell us sooner?

If you use Grub to boot, run SliTaz from ISO. Add in your menu.lst

# Booting SliTaz from ISO
#
title SliTaz rolling Live ISO - kernel 3.2.71
# according the ISO file is installed on the same disk and partition than GRUB:
   map --mem --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 (hd0,0)/path/to/slitaz-rolling.iso (hd32)
   map --hook
   chainloader (hd32)

Otherwise, if the Live you've done with UNetBootin let you access to the menu, boot SliTaz from web!

Another solution, as you can run SliTaz 3.0, consists to create a LiveUSB from here:

[*]Download slitaz-rolling-core.iso (say in /home/tux/Documents)

[*]Open a terminal and become root.

[*]Insert your USB stick; wait a few seconds the system detects it.

[*]If you want a persistent /home, format your stick ext2, 3 or 4: type

[c]tazusb format[/c]

Hit [Enter] and follow the instructions.

[*]Now the stick is ready, type:

[c]tazusb gen-iso2usb /path/to/slitaz-rolling-core.iso /dev/sda1[/c]

(this command supposes your stick is /dev/sda1)

or use the specific graphic tool:

click on the red spider button in the lower left corner of the screen and select [c]System Tools > Tazusb LiveUSB Tool[/c].

[*]In the subox that opens, click in the Admin password field and enter [c]root[/c] then click [OK] (the [Enter] key will not work in this window)

[*]In the TazUSB Box, click on the [Live] button and select the .iso file; in the USB Media field, select your USB stick and click on [->Generate]

You can see some error messages at the end of the process but the LiveUSB should work.

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#10 2017-06-01 05:25:32

mojo
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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

Grub2 will boot 4in1 slitaz-rolling.iso or single rootfs iso such as slitaz-core.iso

The iso must be located on the same partition where grub2 is installed.

menuentry "SliTaz Rolling 2017_05_27 i486" {

  loopback loop /boot/iso/slitaz-rolling.iso

  linux (loop)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/null autologin

  initrd (loop)/boot/rootfs4.gz (loop)/boot/rootfs3.gz (loop)/boot/rootfs2.gz (loop)/boot/rootfs1.gz

  savedefault

}

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#11 2017-06-04 22:59:22

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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

The heading literally says: "No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out."

It says I don't "already have Slitaz or Windows".

Thanks for the reply tho but I can't use tazusb either. (Refer to title of thread, no Slitaz.)

I appreciate the responses but can someone just answer if 4 in 1s and 10 in 1s are ISO hybrids? (Please.)

A significant number of people interested in using Slitaz already use Linux but have neither an optical drive, slitaz or windows.

Relying on exe methods and tazusb is totally unique as far as I've seen.

The help page should just explain which images are ISO hybrids and how to use grub on the others.

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#12 2017-06-04 23:04:40

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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

Tazusb and exe methods etc. seem like an unessary complication, I don't understand the reason for making methods unique to Slitaz and using various different methods for different isos.

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#13 2017-07-13 06:13:36

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Re: No way to run from USB without already having Slitaz or Windows? Many missing out.

THIS IS A DRAG & DROP METHOD FOR WINDOWS!!

I once came across Xboot from pendrivelinux.com when I was trying to find something that would help me create multiboot USB or DVD easily

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/xboot-multiboot-iso-usb-creator/

One can create multiboot or a single OS, bootable USB flash drive with simple drag & drop

I have tested & found it working for Slitaz 5 rolling release.

Slitaz 4 didn't work for me but you might be luckier!!

Hope someone finds this helpful!

(The bootloader selection screenshot is taken from pendrivelinux.com, I captured the other)

[attachment=44904,2513] [attachment=44904,2514]

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