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#1 2018-02-22 15:23:50

lm2
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next : installation impossible..

i'm not giving about any tom cruise movie regarding the title,

but here on both ISO available (15th and 30th) i'm just in the impossible case of installing slitaz next on a laptop which old slitaz 5 has been destroyed by the Next grub attempt of installation..

sda6 =>  taz5

sda7 => home

sda9 => Next

now i just can't use the computer, cause command-line installer failed, adn web one just doesnt launch...

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#2 2018-02-22 15:57:31

lm2
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Re: next : installation impossible..

is there a way to install slitaz on a particular partition without using the installer?

then to reinstall grub on this last partition?

(yes, nobody's alive on the irc..)

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#3 2018-02-22 16:54:00

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Re: next : installation impossible..

how boys have you done to install slitaz ?

each time i have 'process not completed"

changing filesystem, changing passwords, with or without /home partition..

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#4 2018-02-22 17:21:59

aledie
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Re: next : installation impossible..

Can it be done manually as described here, with help of your live USB or CD (your computer has no working OS now!?):

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:handbook:installation#manual-by-hand-installation

Local authorities should confirm, running SliTaz for just days from an USB myself.

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#5 2018-02-22 17:28:52

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Re: next : installation impossible..

aledie : ty for the answer

a) it is not my computer

>your computer has no working OS now!?

b) a windows partition, a slitaz5 partition, an home partition, no grub working to use any of these 3 least.

c) i'm looking at your manual.

problem : grub-installer is not available on the NEXT iso.

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#6 2018-02-22 17:49:49

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Re: next : installation impossible..

just installed grub, trying to install it:

"this may take a long time" hope it will done in next few hours..

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#7 2018-02-22 18:15:46

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Re: next : installation impossible..

so i did the handmade installation..

grub doesnt works... i took back slitaz 5:

cmp : EOF on /tmp/ ..

thats appears six times then

the file not read correctly;

linux, sometimes....

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#8 2018-02-22 18:56:10

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Re: next : installation impossible..

@ lm2,

grub doesnt works

Can you be more precise?

I've meat some troubles with the grub-install command in Rolling:

# grub-inslall
bash: grub-inslall: command not found
# sh grub-install
sh: can't open 'grub-install'
# tazpkg -r bash
Remove package "bash" (4.4.5)? (y/N) y

Then I closed/open the session and [c]grub-install[/c] worked. Don't know if it is the same with Next.

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#9 2018-02-22 19:09:49

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Re: next : installation impossible..

how boys have you done to install slitaz ? each time i have 'process not completed"

Well the question is: how did you do?

From Rolling installed on sda2:

[*]open TazPanel, login as root

[*]choose Installation > Install SliTaz > [Continue installation]

[*]Select source media: ISO file = /home/iso/slitaz-next-170930.iso (/home is on the separate partition sda3)

[*]Select destination: Install SliTaz to partition= /dev/sda6 next (ext3)

[*]home partition: Separate partition for /home= <none>

[*][Proceed to SliTaz installation]

and no problem...

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#10 2018-02-22 19:12:12

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Re: next : installation impossible..

booted on NEXT

installed grub2

grub-install /dev/sda

==> installing for i386-pc plateform

grub-install : error : failed to get canonical path of 'tmpfs'

i think this asus laptop just can't put a grub conf inside of the HDD : even with grub1 on slitaz 5, it was failing with an EOF something..

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#11 2018-02-22 19:15:26

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Re: next : installation impossible..

not rolling, which is an evolution of slitaz 5

i can't use taz5 here because it cannot use properly the video card

so it's mandatory here to take NEXT;

but the NEXT installer (okay, i just understood where alexej and kultex get the name : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT )

doesnt allows me to choose an install or an upgrade, links are just going to the same page; only evaluation is working;

so i had to install it handly with the page you gave me; it works (i thought) until the grub one : grub gave me an EOF error message;

here, it's with grub2, i had:

grub-install : error : failed to get canonical path of 'tmpfs'

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#12 2018-02-22 19:29:23

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Re: next : installation impossible..

grub-install /dev/sda

Don't you have to indicate a root directory?

[c]grub-install --root-directory=DIR /dev/sda[/c]

The HD must be mount (ie: in /mnt); the command should be

[c]grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda[/c]

No?

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#13 2018-02-22 19:40:13

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Re: next : installation impossible..

And you can find the Tazinst manual here: http://hg.slitaz.org/tazinst/raw-file/tip/doc/tazinst.en.html

But I confess that if you don't know it exists and where it is you cannot find it; this manual is not indicate in the start page.

I'll do it this week end.

I'm going to try tazinst from Next and see what's the problem.

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#14 2018-02-22 23:10:48

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Re: next : installation impossible..

even if i indicate the --root-directory, it's the same thing; and course the /boot directory is mounted..

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#15 2018-02-23 02:35:39

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Re: next : installation impossible..

mount /dev/sda9 /media/flash

(where sda9 is my NEXT / install)

grub-install --root-directory=/media/flash /dev/sda9

and

grub-install --root-directory=/media/flash /dev/sda

give the same :

root@slitaz:/home/tux# grub-install --root-directory=/media/flash /dev/sda

cmp: EOF on /tmp/grub-install.img.7j727o

cmp: EOF on /tmp/grub-install.img.7j727o

cmp: EOF on /tmp/grub-install.img.7j727o

cmp: EOF on /tmp/grub-install.img.7j727o

cmp: EOF on /tmp/grub-install.img.7j727o

The file /media/flash/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.

thats what i have with slitaz5

with NEXT, with grub2:

root@slitaz:/home/tux# grub-install --root-directory=/media/flash /dev/sda9

Installing for i386-pc platform.

grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..

grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.

root@slitaz:/home/tux# grub-install --root-directory=/media/flash /dev/sda

Installing for i386-pc platform.

Installation finished. No error reported.

==> grub2

minimal bash like...

grub>

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#16 2018-02-23 09:36:11

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Re: next : installation impossible..

tazusb works with next and I use it frugal.....

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#17 2018-02-23 10:34:43

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Re: next : installation impossible..

@kultex :

i dont get your message..

launch NEXT by usb? no problem..

with tazusb? to create the key? yes..

but the webinstaller, with the two isos, just have bad links for the install/update process;

then i have a problem with grub ..

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#18 2018-02-23 11:19:56

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Re: next : installation impossible..

with grub2:

grub-mkconfig -o /media/flash/boot/grub.cfg

/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error : failed to get canonical path of 'tmpfs'

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#19 2018-02-23 11:31:35

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Re: next : installation impossible..

deleting / partition

recreating it

slitaz-installer

formating it as ext4

letting all the rest by default

process not complete

rebooting

grub minimal bash

/killing myself

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#20 2018-02-23 12:07:04

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Re: next : installation impossible..

@lm2

Try Super Grub2 Disk.

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#21 2018-02-23 16:07:45

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Re: next : installation impossible..

after several hours of discussing, thats what we agreed :

slitaz 5 used as an alternative rescue cause of the bad resolution

slitaz 5 used as specialized and business-made softwares

slitaz next used for common activities

so with triple boot taz5/next/w7

with a non-booting to grub laptop, going to the battleground with taz5:

so :

-creating a new taz5 live usb

booting on it

creating a sda10 partition for third part taz tool

installing taz5 on that sda10

rebooting

changing hd,10 to hd0,10 in grub (wtf first time i have a bug with grub/taz5)

finally moving sda6 taz5 menu.lst to sda10 taz5rescue menu.lst

here i had a problem :

sda1to4 are for win

sda5 represents logical volumes

sda6 taz5

sda7 home

sda8 swap

sda9 NEXT

sda10 taz5rescue

laptop boots only on grub from sda10, even when the boot flag is reported to sda6 (original taz5 install) with gparted;

si i'm stuck with that, then i just check the handmade installation of NEXT mounting sda9, which seems fine from previous experimentation

then i just add next entry to the grub..

i do have now a triple taz5, win7 and next boot on the laptop.. next steps are integrating home partition to next statup, which has notgin to do when mentionned in the grub boot loader

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#22 2018-02-23 16:22:14

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Re: next : installation impossible..

so here by handly, next installation done, but tazpkg doesnt seems to have packages.. seeking thundie or vlc...

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#23 2018-02-23 16:46:08

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Re: next : installation impossible..

I told you - lot of things are not done..........

http://pkgs.slitaz.org/?package=vlc&version=n

but it can be, that the package is available, but broken

http://cook.slitaz.org/next/?broken

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#24 2018-02-23 16:51:41

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Re: next : installation impossible..

@kultex:

so the better way would be to bring the debian one, to convert it using tazpkg and to install it?

going to see if its work..

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#25 2018-02-23 16:58:56

aledie
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Re: next : installation impossible..

-10 partitions!? Cool!

-By the way NEXT means comes next, I guess Aleksej is one guy working on it(his private side project) and it is work in progress, means Alfa, not even beta... I got this feeling 2 days ago trying next lxqt, reverted back to 5.0 and even have thoughts to install 4.0 stable instead...

- here clear outloud: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/next/

"SliTaz Next ISO at the very early stage..."

- you can check packages available before spending 2 days installing here: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/packages/next/

- if there is no Thunderbird or VLC you can always download a .Deb or .rpm ... and convert it tazpkg convert ... Or help Aleksej to compile, so we all be happy and switch to next...

I sorry for sarcasm, it took me two days to understand how slitaz is being developed, who develops it, it took you 1 year, and expectations are like to commercial Ubuntu with bunch of developers and plenty of resources... Hope I don't get kicked out of forum for speaking out liud

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