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Versione flavor ricavata dalla versione slitaz-3.0 con nuovo kernel 3.3.0 e grafica stile windows.
http://www.freefilehosting.net/slitazxp-kernel-330
Chi volesse provare solo il kernel qui per scaricarlo
http://www.freefilehosting.net/linux-33
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hi.......
a screenshot?
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Ecco le anteprime dello schermo... e buona pasqua a tutti.
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Hi Gibor,
happy Easter sunday! Looks nice! Aka ,,well done"...
Sure a nice and surprising hint for inviting newbies to Linux-Slitaz!
As far as I see everything works fine!
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very nice Gibor,
well done. I'll have a go later on my old fujitsu-siemens scenic 500 and see what will happen.
Happy Easter to all of You guys.
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@aniguenni,
how much RAM does this machine have? One might burst in sardonic laughter: now it is possible to have ,,Windows XP" on a very old machine with low RAM, so low that Windows XP never ever can run on such a machine. Kind of uninvited Windows support?
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and display manager? slim?
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I have no nostalgia for Windows. Still, I was curious, so I downloaded, burned and booted the 52 MB ISO. The first thing I noticed was, that this is a more or less unaltered version of SliTaz 3.0 with all its bells, whistles and flaws. Uname -a confirms kernel-3.3 is running. Network doesn't work out-of-the-box, as it does on my hardware with standard SliTaz 3.0. The "Windows bit" of this experiment is limited to the background image and a theme that loosely resembles the default XP desktop. Personally, I much prefer the more sane and sober looks of W2K. But this isn't the point. The point is, what is the point of all of this? Is there any advantage in lumping together an aging distro with an up-to-date kernel other than proving that it is possible?
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I did not want to demonstrate anything, just put together a new kernel and a graphical Windows-like.
I do not have the ability to create a new distro, as I said in the first post just a flavor of all.
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Sorry, gibor, I didn't mean to trash or even criticize your experiment. I just couldn't see the point of it. If you wanted to create a Windows-like flavor, why didn't you stick with default SliTaz 3.0, modify the look & feel of the desktop, maybe add Wine and some Windows-like applications etc.? Updating the kernel can have implications that may not be immediately visible but break things somewhere down the line.
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Very interesting, this is an openbox style?
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@darjeeling, yes, this and that can be done further. I take it as a nice, funny demonstration with the ironic surplus that in this form ,,XP" can run on a machine where XP can't. For newbie school kids it is a very nice demonstration - they judge any software primarily from its look. This attitude can be cured, thanks to @gibor.
I have that XP - and boot it once a month, about.
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@darjeeling Sometimes there doesn't need to be a point, but it doesn't mean it doesn't end up having one. It has been discussed to death on other forums and distros. It's been cloned interface wise several time rangeing from fully dedicated distros ( http://www.ylmf.org/en/ ) to merely cosmetic changes ( http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/02/17/windows-xp-themes-for-ubuntu/ ). The point behind them is obvious: Give users something they're familiar with and they might just use it. The biggest issue that most newbies suffer is the interface and variety shock when they first start using Linux. Giving them something familiar, even if only cosmetic, makes them more willing to try it. So there's your point.
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Gosh, I really do feel a little guilty now! Gibor has achieved something I could have never done myself without diving deep into the issues and making lots of experiments, in which case my hardware (no hdd!) probably would have turned out to be insufficient. So, hats off to you, Gibor! MichaelBischof and Trixar are right. The world would be a poorer place without people doing things just for the hack of it.
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@Darjeeling, not trying to rub salt into the wound, but I tried to 'sell' Slitaz to a friend of mine who was using XP which was running like a snail on a old machine. The person was just used to running IE for web browsing and webmail and had very little idea on how to use his computer. When I loaded Slitaz on his machine he was impressed with the speed but found himself totally lost simply because he was not familiar with the Slitaz interface. The problem became so bad that he decided to give away his computer! Given this experience, I can see a very good point why anyone would want to use gibor's XP flavour - in fact, I would certainly try this on 'less computer literate' people and it could well be a winner in those situations.
@gibor, thanks for your efforts - it is certainly not wasted.
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hi all ... just my opinion ... why we make our Linux looks like Windows? ... i love my (Slitaz) Linux visual style ... 
@gibor, good job ... looks nice, bro
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@rd.nmc
Bello sfondo il tuo, ma rispetto i gusti altrui e per dirlo con un concetto semplice, questo è solo per chi non gli piace ubuntu e le sue due incomprensibili barre e perchè linux non è sinonimo di ubuntu, tanto di meno slitaz non deve per forza anche lui assomigliare ad ubuntu.
Sfogliando il forum spesso è stato detto che slitaz non è ubuntu è una distro gnu/linux indipendente, non vedo quindi il motivo per non vestirlo come meglio si crede nel proprio pc.
Visto che non si lascia facilmente cambiare d'abito ho fornito per i newbie una versione già modificata con uno stile noto a tutti i principianti :-)
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why my Slitaz looks like ubuntu? it's not just the look of ubuntu, but more like GNOME ... I do not know who first put on the toolbar at the top and two toolbars like that, maybe mac? 
... difference between linux and windows rather than just on looks alone ... people will interact with many programs in linux that is quite different from the programs in windows ... I think the important thing is how to educate people how to use linux ...
@ gibor ... cool, man ... I like the look of linux as you make ... I appreciate the work of others and I agree that if we change the look of linux like windows so that people who are not Linux users be attracted because they are already familiar with the look of windows ... but then how do people adapt to the programs on linux ...
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Sono stati spesi fiumi di parole su quest'argomento senza trovare a quanto pare un accordo, aggiungerò anche la mia opinione.
Questa è solo una mia visione dei fatti, ma forse bisognerebbe iniziare con il considerare il concetto di ergonomia negli ambienti informatici.
Prima che dei programmatori siamo utilizzatori del pc, e il dover cercare sparso sullo schermo il tasto che vogliamo, non servirà a comprendere meglio il s.o.
Siamo terribilmente abitudinari, e cambiarle forse è fra le cose più difficili da realizzare.
Se vogliamo rendere più chiaro il concetto di facilità d'uso, possiamo pensare all'automobile.
Guardando un modello che ci piace possiamo apprezzare la bellezza, le prestazioni e il costo, ma poi salendo a bordo se non troviamo il volante i pedali e la visuale giusta, abbiamo di botto perso interesse per quella macchina.
Questa cosa è valida per tutti gli oggetti che ci circondano, e giustamente viene tenuta in grande considerazione dai costruttori.
Non si tratta quindi di elìte un ambiente linux, ma solo di un sistema alternativo, purtroppo è una realtà che la quasi totalità degli utenti ha fatto i primi passi con lo zio bill, e va quindi visto prima di tutto che sia facilmente accessibile per il semplice utilizzo quotidiano, poi gradualmente per necessità si impara anche a conoscerlo.
Aprendo una parentesi sulla paternità delle due barre, io non ne ho la certezza, risale ai primi anni 80 il mio approccio con i pc, e la prima volta che l'ho visto è stato proprio su ubuntu6.06, e da allora per me questa caratteristica come pure la famiglia gnome la associo ad ubuntu.
Anche se posso dire che l'ultima versione 11.10 ha eliminato una barra e messo una dock sulla sx, molto probabilmente per ottimizzare meglio gli spazi divenuti troppo stretti con gli schermi a 16/9.
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