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#1 2011-05-16 12:52:39

pankso
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Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Hi all,

NOTE: I have post this mail on the list and though it may interest some forum users.

IMPORTANT: Please keep in mind the ISO is for TESTING and is not like the usuall core ISO.

So here an a new ISO flavor called "blending" since it use latest

packages from Tank/cookutils and latest code from our sub project

repos. It use the new Kernel with i386, new udev and have /run.

The goal is to let you try out latest code from the devel side, the ISO

provide a X desktop but not a standard one, you have to right click on

the desktop to get applications menu, the iso is at 22,8 Mb. The

desktop is powered by Openbox and use Tint2 as panel (on top).

Boot scripts

------------

One off the BIG change except new packages build, is the boot scripts.

I cleaned up them, remove 2 and we have now one system.sh

configuration. If you can try this new ISO just for that it would be

very greate, if no major bugs I will release new boot script fo

everyone. Please boot without options to check the default boot for

most users.

Keyboard

--------

Also I used the real kbd package and so we support much more keyboard

layout. The keyboard config for pt_BR should work since I used latest

tazx/tazkeymap, please give it a try but first boot the ISO without

options.

Summary of new stuff

--------------------

    * TazPanel is included and work out-of-the-box

    * TazWeb with search, bookmarks, printing, open in new widow.

    * Tazlito wich will be less verbose now when creating livecd

    * New way to configure system at boot

    * New kernel with i386 and new udev

    * Latest TazBox for system and users configuration (with new subox from xfred)

    * New splash image for Syslinux

    * More keyboard from kbd with new tazx/tazlocale/tazkeymap

    * All new packages freshly build by Tank and cookutils

Download: http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/undigest/slitaz-blending.iso

MD5: http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/undigest/slitaz-blending.md5

Feedback will be grealty appreciated!

- Christophe

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#2 2011-05-16 13:15:36

Trixar_za
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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Which interface would SliTaz 4 include? Would it be the usual Openbox/Lxpanel/PCManFM combo and how would the inclusion of Lxpanel instead of tint2 influence iso size? I'm half asking to get an idea how big the SliTaz 4 release will be wink

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#3 2011-05-16 13:55:56

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

As I wrote this is not a standard core, core will stay like it is with lxpanel/pcmanfm since it provide a Freedesktop menu and desktop file management it is a MUST have for users and my mum :-)

As I said this is a custom blinding edge ISO to test new code. I wanted this iso not to big so why I stripped down many apps.

And, did you boot it ? GUI configuration works for you ? If you want to use latest tank packages dont forget to:

# tazpkg setup-mirror http://cook.slitaz.org/packages/

(trailing splash is important) Before installing anything.

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#4 2011-05-16 16:17:14

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Looks great!

Here are a few tests I did:

a) boot new iso as liveCD:

- boots with new iso (no option) => OK

- language and keymap config: tested fr_CH-latin1 => OK

- usb mouse 3 buttons => OK

- usb mouse 2 buttons => OK

- X starts, no more black or frozen screen => OK

b) Internet connection:

- works out of the box (wired connection) => OK

c) create a liveusb with:

#su

#fdisk -l => reports usb stick as /dev/sda1

#tazusb format /dev/sda1 => OK

#tazusb gen-liveusb /dev/sda1 => OK

=> boot with fresh liveusb on a laptop => OK

d) test report of fdisk -l:

with the fresh formatted usb stick in ext3:

#fdisk -l => reports it as FAT32 win 95

=> KO, obviously it is wrong as it was formatted as ext3 during liveusb

creation process.

e) navigation between TTYs :

- navigates between terminals with alt-control-F1, F2, ... and F7 (for X)

  => OK

f) installation of abiword package:

#su

#tazpkg setup-mirror http://cook.slitaz.org/packages/

#tazpkg get-install abiword => OK

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#5 2011-05-16 17:52:28

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Yes!!!!

THIS is a useful report, big thanks!

For the fdisk -l after formatting I also have this report, surely a Busybox fdisk limitation or bug (we dont use the real GNU tools in most case for base commands). Try out 'blkid', for me is report ext3.

Thank again for the nice report :-)

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#6 2011-05-16 20:11:04

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Some packages installation failed:

#su

#tazpkg setup-mirror http://cook.slitaz.org/packages/

f1) Gparted installation failed:

#tazpkg get-install gparted

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

wget: short write

/usr/bin/tazpkg: line 3104: can't open /gparted-0.8.0.tazpkg: no such file

/usr/bin/tazpkg: .: line 3104: can't open '/tmp/tazpkg-3124/25492/receipt'

f2) gcc as well:

#tazpkg get-install gcc

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

wget: short write

/usr/bin/tazpkg: line 3104: can't open /gcc-4.5.2.tazpkg: no such file

/usr/bin/tazpkg: .: line 3104: can't open '/tmp/tazpkg-3205/1812/receipt'

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#7 2011-05-16 21:04:05

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Arf Tazpkg bug, fixed now. I released Tazpkg between and it's in cook repos packages. Few our after the blending iso is out-of-date...

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#8 2011-05-16 21:18:57

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Hi

British (uk) keyboard not working for tazbox keymap

Changing /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-Keyboard.conf to:

Section "InputClass"

    Identifier "Keyboard Defaults"

    MatchIsKeyboard "yes"

    Option "XkbLayout" "gb"

Endsection

fixes this.

Tazpanel sometimes crashes when clicking on

TazPanel -> Packages -> Categories -> All

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#9 2011-05-16 21:39:19

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

boots perfect on a eeepc 900A

But I don't understand how we can test anything .. this looks so "stripped out"

#10 2011-05-16 22:27:45

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Paul, thanks for he feed back. You choos uk keyboard now right ? It as never worked ? Anyway, this commit will do it: http://hg.slitaz.org/slitaz-tools/rev/221221001c4b

Arf for TazPanel all, and we got error message (not blocking) when installing. I did not put "all" in my first version since we have categories right under the hand, but Pascal did it! Will check that.

moulefrite, booted, its already a nice test since all boot scripts got some changes as well as the kernel and all packages!

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#11 2011-05-17 17:31:03

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Hi all,

I just uploaded the blending edge ISO of the day with a bunch of fixes and full dri/agp support. The default mirror is also preconfigured to use latest Tank packages. Testers and feedbacks are welcome :-)

Download: http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/undigest/slitaz-blending.iso

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#12 2011-05-19 18:07:20

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

I downloaded and tested it on my Laptop bun since there is no way to connect to internet couldn't do much, Also when it started it said no screen was available.

I did connected to a wired networks and looks good.

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#13 2011-05-20 18:36:38

ernia
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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

booted, tried to upgrade to get my touchscreen working but got these errors:

root@slitaz:~# tazpkg recharge

Command line: dirname

BusyBox v1.18.4 (2011-05-10 21:29:50 CEST) multi-call binary.

Usage: dirname FILENAME

Strip non-directory suffix from FILENAME

Command line: basename

BusyBox v1.18.4 (2011-05-10 21:29:50 CEST) multi-call binary.

Usage: basename FILE [SUFFIX]

Strip directory path and .SUFFIX from FILE

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

packages.desc        100% |*************************************************************************************************************************************|  1063  --:--:-- ETA

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

packages.md5         100% |*************************************************************************************************************************************|   547  --:--:-- ETA

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

packages.list        100% |*************************************************************************************************************************************|   137  --:--:-- ETA

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

files.list.lzma      100% |*************************************************************************************************************************************|    18  --:--:-- ETA

Connecting to cook.slitaz.org (213.3.10.214:80)

wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found

================================================================================

Last packages.list is ready to use. Note that next time you recharge the

list, a list of differences will be displayed to show new and upgradeable

packages.

dirname and basename errors makes me think that tazpkg uses some options which busybox does not like or the script does not get some output from a previous command

how does quoting code works in the new forum?

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#14 2011-05-21 16:48:57

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

It's official at least for me this release will not detect AMD and Nvidia it will just hang, I have tried twice once with the original and once with a remaster adding wlan0 however it works in my Atom laptop with no problems.

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#15 2011-05-22 00:40:21

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

I downloaded the ISO, verified the download with MD5 and still Slitaz won't play with my older machines.I tested on an AMD K6-2 400 and a Pentium MMX 233, it refused to boot on either system. The kernel panics and it gives an error message "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!", same as before.

#16 2011-05-25 18:27:34

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Booted from HD using grub with bzImage and rootfs.gz of the image.

Runs fast as hell (like Slitaz uses to...) on AMD XP 2400+ with NVidia GeForce MX 420 (in VESA mode).

Switching to terminals (STRG-ALT-F1 to 6) just shows a dark grey blinking line (cursor) top left; no keyboard strokes accepted or commands taken. Switching back to Xorg (ALT-F7) is working. Installation of nv driver isn't possible while using xorg; without console there's no way of installing nv (I guess...)

/var/log/messages contains lots of udev-errors

[...]

May 25 18:41:49 (none) user.notice error binding udev control socket

May 25 18:41:49 (none) daemon.err udevd[1699]: error binding udev control socket

May 25 18:41:50 (none) daemon.info init: starting pid 1712, tty '/dev/tty1': '/sbin/getty 38400 tty1'

May 25 18:41:50 (none) daemon.info init: starting pid 1713, tty '/dev/tty2': '/sbin/getty 38400 tty2'

May 25 18:41:50 (none) daemon.err udevd[1715]: bind failed: Address already in use

[...]

/var/slim/log says

***** Imlib2 Developer Warning ***** :

    This program is calling the Imlib call: imlib_free_image();

    With the parameter: image being NULL. Please fix your program.

/var/log/boot.log says "Unable to configure sound card."

tazpkg recharge and upgrade ran through well, creating a new rootfs.gz with tazlitobox was a charm too. But none of the problems above was solved by this. I addition, udev threw an error on startup:

/var/log/boot.log says

Starting udev daemon...udevd[671]: error: runtime directory '/run/udev' not writable, for now falling back to '/dev/.udev'

Since your mom claims lxpanel and pcmanfm anyway, the following ones are just side aspects  ;-)

I like wbar but lack the access while another window is maximized (as well as on the status bar) so windowing it again or using ALT-TAB is the only way of switching applications...

tazweb is fast and smooth but lacks tabbed window functionality...

Thanx for sharing, will be looking further into detail...

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#17 2011-05-26 18:17:07

Trixar_za
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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Seems it's the udev daemon not starting properly and binding to /run/udev that is causing the majority of the problems you're experiencing.

It's not binding tty1 through to tty6 (meaning switching to virtual terminal using Ctrl + Alt + F1-6 won't work) and it might also be contributing your sound card not picking up. You could maybe try running chmod 777 /run as root and see if that helps after a reboot.

The imlib warning is negligible and is probably a bug in Slim.

As for using a terminal, can't you use something like sakura, lxterminal or xterm to install the xorg drivers?

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#18 2011-05-26 21:05:39

Filou
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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

The error message referring to the non-writable /run/udev directory came up after creating a new rootfs.gz with tazlitobox. It did not exist before. Maybe the directory is created dynamically at boot-time and was included by tazlito, which might have caused the error.

The terminal problem (and the udev errors) came up already with the original image. Although the error with /run/udev was not reported there. So I guess chmodding /run won't solve the problem; will try out next week anyway...

For the installation of nv xorg-drivers I deem it necessary to quit xorg, otherwise I experience problems with the installation. Therfore terminal emulation under xorg (like xterm or lxterminal) won't do the trick...

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#19 2011-05-28 15:00:45

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Re: Blending edge ISO with latest stuff

Hi Filou,

Thanks for the report! We may have to fix permission on /run/udev but it strange since udev is started by root and dont have it own users.

NOTE for everyone: The current blendig ISO is already out-of-date since we have rebuilded all package on Tank another time to ensure package consitency and quality. I have to release some sub-projects (slitaz-tools, boot script, cookutils) and then will make a new ISO.

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