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#1 2011-07-29 18:34:09

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GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

omg. first off, slitaz is an amazing piece of work well-done/thank-you to everyone involved.

I am using an Intel Atom chip, which uses the notoriously clumsy GMA500 GPU.

Thankfully, ubuntu has some good documentation on it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo

In ubuntu I was able to have a reasonably acceptable graphical experience using the EMGD driver.

Slitaz is lightening fast, but the graphics at the moment are uber slow. I have used tazx in the terminal to set up the intel driver, but I've noticed no improvement (although I don't know how to test that it's actually using that driver).

Would anyone know how I could get the EMGD (or perhaps PSB (whatever works best)) driver as described in the ubuntu documentation?

thanks so much.

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#2 2011-07-29 23:05:55

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

I have found this: http://code.google.com/p/kernel-netbook/ ... A custom compiled kernel designed specifically for Intel Atom netbooks! great. But I have *no* idea how to replace the built in kernel with this one?

I would prefer to replace just the video driver, as slitaz is so fast already, I don't want to add a bulky generic kernel. but if you know how to replace the kernel in slitaz, please please tell me. Thank you.

Can anyone write a guide how to replace the kernel?

Thank youuuuuu

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#3 2011-07-31 14:17:17

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

as you see in the arch wiki - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Poulsbo , which is newer than the ubuntu wiki, the fbdev xorg driver is supporting Poulsbo.

in slitaz I think you should use the http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/undigest/slitaz-xorg-light.iso which I think uses the fbdev driver instead of teh xvesa driver

read this thread: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/new-cooking-20110531

when this xorg-light is not using the fbdev driver use the normal cooking and change the xorg driver from vesa to fbdev

some more wikis:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Model/1101HA

http://www.linux-fbdev.org/HOWTO/index.html

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67166

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#4 2011-08-01 00:30:07

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

thank you so much kultex.

I'll look into this tomorrow, but just a note, tazx does not have an option for fbdev. and the xorg-light version, sees no noticeable difference sad What would you reccomend I do? (p.s. I know time is precious, so you don't have to write me a walk-through but if you can point me to some information into installing modules in slitaz, that, will be great)

thannnnnnks

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#5 2011-08-01 20:11:54

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

how fare are you coming with the xorg-light version?

do you see the desktop?

the package, that must be installed, is called xorg-server-Xfbdev.tazpkg

if you dont see the desktop - boot with the option screen=text and now you can work on the terminal

log in as tux - then

tazpkg search fbdev

should give you the information, if the package is installed

then try to start X by hand with

startx

look at the errors

and you also can check the xorg log with

nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log

and look for errors

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#6 2011-08-02 12:20:10

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

I just checked the xorg-light version and it uses vesa and xorg-server-Xfbdev.tazpkg is not installed - I will ask, if there exits an fbdev iso

It seems that it is also possible, to use vesa driver http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Acer_Aspire_One_AO751h

to make your own kernel in slitaz:

http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:kernel

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#7 2011-08-02 15:46:05

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

xfbdev which stands for x frame buffer device is the  lowest performing video available really only suitable for a splash screen before xorg starts.

Pankso put together a minimal iso thinking it could be a substitute for discontinued xvesa.

I tested it, performance was bad and some keyboard keys would not work. 

Discussion: http://listengine.tuxfamily.org/lists.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/2011/06/msg00026.html

slitaz-xfbdev :

http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/undigest/slitaz-xfbdev.iso

http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/undigest/slitaz-xfbdev.md5

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#8 2011-08-03 23:25:31

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

Hi all, thanks for all the advice.

I'm really busy at the mo, so can't do much. but i had a quick test.

Kultex, all the versions of slitaz load into the regular windows enviroment, however all are incredibly sluggish, including xorg-light.

mojo, thanks for chipping in, the xbdev iso works WAY better (but still not as good as using the EMGD driver in ubuntu). Although in slitaz-fbdev the mouse works but the keyboard does not (and then i still have to set up a proper environment with menu bars and wifi e.t.c)

but thanks thanks thanks. when I have some time i will read up about the kernel documentation and then maybe look into how to implement the EMDG driver

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#9 2011-08-05 12:05:42

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

@ spaced,

I will look into xfbdev.iso as soon as I have time - but could you please post the Xorg.0.log from the xfbdev.iso - I would like to add some words to the xorg/xvesa guide about poulsbo grafics

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#10 2011-08-06 21:52:04

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

Thanks kultex. will do this soon. (even though the issue isn't entirely resolved) would you like me to remove the red dot from this thread?

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#11 2011-08-08 17:29:03

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

@spaced I think the red dot is still ok, until it is solved

@mojo - how did you get any keyboard working in the Xfbdev-iso? and very strange - the xfbdev-iso has no xorg.0.log

and I just found, that xf86-video-fbdev is missing in the packages - it would be nice, if somebody could make one

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#12 2011-08-09 14:34:07

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

@kultex

login to console as root.

#nano .xsession

Add this:

xfbdev -ac -mouse -keybd evdev device=/dev/input/event1

Save

startx

PC-104 keyboard with ps2 connector

Dead keys: up/down/left/right Insert Home End Delete Page Up/Down

Maybe xfbdev is not running under xorg-server so it doesn't log ?

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#13 2011-08-09 18:55:57

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

thx @mojo - there was missing two ,, - but it was leading to the solution

Xfbdev -mouse mouse,5,protocol=ps/2 -keybd evdev,,device=/dev/input/event1,xkbmodel=evdev,xkbrules=xorg,xkblayout=de   

worked best for me - perhaps with some other rules it is spossible to get the other keys, but at the moment, I have no more time

and to improve graphics mesa-dri must be installed

this worked on my Thinkpad X31

My Asus EP20 - where only USB keyboard is possible - did not work at all.

Check the entries at /dev/input to get the possible event numbers - it could be also event0 or event3

@spaced

could you try this on your poulsbo notebook

please install also mes-dri and firefox as root with

tazpkg get-install mesa-dri

tazpkg get-install firefox

you can start firefox by typing firefox on the shell

and please tell us, if it is useable

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#14 2011-09-04 16:20:13

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

Hi kultex, others

sorry about my slow (3 weeks!) reply.

I'm going to try this now. will let you know how it goes.

have you seen this: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTE0NQ

QUOTE from link: "If you're an owner of a netbook or other hardware containing an Intel Poulsbo / GMA 500, the Linux 2.6.39 kernel should be rather exciting. Entering the Linux kernel's staging tree is an initial open-source driver for this notorious Intel graphics processor derived from Imagination Technologies' PowerVR SGX graphics core. "

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#15 2011-09-04 17:35:19

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

Okay.... I have not been able to get the keyboard working using any number of xsession configurations.

if i ls /dev/input i get event0 through 5. I have tried all of them.

but it look like once we get the keyboard working, we'll have a pretty snappy os for poulsbo. smile

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#16 2011-09-04 18:32:48

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

With this, will you be able to decode flash with hardware solution ?

If yes, I will probably buy an "old" 1101 HA  smile

#17 2011-09-12 17:32:42

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

bump.

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#18 2011-09-24 19:32:34

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

sorry spaced - I have no time in the moment to continue - after 10. of Oktober its better

maybe you try to send a mail to the xorg mailing list:

http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

if you dont I will do it in Oktober

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#19 2013-02-26 05:12:13

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

I know this is a very old thread, but after 2-3 hours of googling poulsbo, gma500 along with slitaz, I've come to one of the very few threads on this Intel GMA500 poulsbo graphics chip.

I've got a Dell mini 1010 with this chip, and am asking if there has been any progress getting this working for slitaz?

I'm currently running "slitaz-4.0-xorg-light", since it was mentioned somewhere here that it uses a different fb driver. I tried the regular slitaz-4.0, and it was the same or slower than the lite version.

What I mean by slow is, application windows, scrolling, or most anything you do in the GUI is very sloooow... and stretched. Some dialog boxes are so large, they go offscreen and one has to drag it over to click a button, etc.

I've gotten this working under Debian "squeeze", several buntus, and now my main nix distro is crunchbang, since all this crummy Dell hardware works out of the box under crunchbang. I would really to see GMA500 poulsbo working in a compact distro like slitaz.

Thank you for reading this,

Jon

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#20 2013-02-28 02:56:41

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Re: GMA500 aka Poulsbo video card support

I finally got GMA500 poulsbo gfx working in slitaz !  smile

Now my netbook boots really fast and runs like it should with 1366x768 resolution. Here's what I did.

First I followed these instructions: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:poulsbo

I was having install problems though. I started with slitaz 4.0 installed to my hard drive. The first time I tried to install rolling.iso with tazpanel, it wouldn't mount my hard drive to install onto. Next time, it stopped in the middle of the install. Finally, I booted with the slitaz 4.0 usb, and installed rolling.iso which I put on a second usb stick.

When I was finished following instructions on link above, I had another problem.

Slitaz Rolling hung up midway trying to detect my sound card. This thread helped me fix that. http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/slitaz-rolling-system-hangs-at-searching-sound-cards

I hope this helps someone else with a Dell mini 1010 netbook. smile

Jon

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