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#1 2011-03-29 09:56:10

differentieel
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how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

hi all,

we try to make a surround 5.1 soundcard working on a SliTaz driven 12 volts Thin Client from the HP T5500 series.

although SliTaz/ALSA recognizes both cards we have it is not yet possible to get any sound out of our TC

audio is working fine on the motherboard sound-out but this is in old fashioned 2 channel stereo. for the art installation we are working on we need a 3 channel mono output.

on each channel there is a separate voice, all three channels make a nice background sound.

specs:

Thin Client: HP T5510 - 512Mb 64X64 DDR333 - 1Gb flashmod - (very smooth working)

Slitaz 3.0

1. asus xonar DX PCI 5.1 (ALSA comp)

2. soundblaster 5.1 vx (ALSA comp)

who knows how to get one of these cards working

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#2 2011-03-29 18:27:42

kultex
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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

first control if the cards are present and working with

aplay -l

then did you check the volume levels with alsamixer?

and sometime thats not enough - see a post in the old forum

http://vanilla.slitaz.org/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/6303#Comment_6303

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#3 2011-03-30 14:27:28

differentieel
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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

thnx Kultex

i will check aplay -l for sure

alsamixer was set correctly

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#4 2011-03-31 13:24:02

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

unhappy - - root says: aplay not found - - - ??

soundconf - -

amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory

alsactl: save_state:1502: No soundcards found..

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#5 2011-03-31 13:37:50

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

I am not sure if aplay is part of alsaplayer or alsa-utils. You may need one of those, maybe both:

root@slitaz: tazpkg get-install alsaplayer

root@slitaz: tazpkg get-install alsa-utils

This is an interesting topic that might help:

http://vanilla.slitaz.org/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/9484#Comment_9484

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#6 2011-03-31 15:04:58

differentieel
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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

thank you totoetsasoeur 4RE

both are already installed - -

just found out that there is no .conf file for the chipset

my card Xonar DG PCI 5.1 - - has a chipset CMI8786 HD

in the /usr/share/alsa/cards - - there are:

CMI8338-SWIEC.conf

CMI8338.conf

CMI8738-MC6.conf

CMI8738-MC8.conf

CMI8788.conf

no CMI8786-HD.conf

does anyone know how to get or modify the config file?

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#7 2011-03-31 15:28:13

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

you have to reinstall alsa-utils - as root

tazpkg get-install alsa-utils --forced

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#8 2011-03-31 15:49:21

kultex
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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

this card is supported by snd-oxygen, which is not present in stable, but it will work in cooking

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#9 2011-03-31 15:52:33

differentieel
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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

forced install done

soundconf - -

offers me only the CMI8788 drivers - no 8786 - is that correct in your opinion?

because - - card is not found

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#10 2011-03-31 16:01:48

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

its not supported by stable - only in cooking

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#11 2011-03-31 16:21:30

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

can i upgrade to Cooking from my stable without a fresh new install

i.o.w. can i upgrade on the command line?

i guess:

# tazpkg get-install slitaz-cooking

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#12 2011-03-31 16:27:30

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

I would just try out the new cooking iso, before you upgrade - the soundblaster card should work without problems

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#13 2011-03-31 16:32:52

differentieel
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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

i remember trying to install Cooking on the TC

had a lot errors and a total crash

don't know why

if you are interested i can reproduce it in some minutes

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#14 2011-03-31 17:07:50

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

Cooking 20110328

after Bios - - and a little while:

Kernel panic - not syncing: Attemted to kill init!

Pid:1, comm: init Not tainted 2.6.37-slitaz #2

Call Trace:

[<c1372ca2>] ? printk+0xf/0x11

and then 13 lines with similar error codes

last line says:

[<c100384d>] ? do_invalid_op+0x0/0x80

then it is very quiet - - -

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#15 2011-03-31 17:57:12

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

here it is described, what you have to do on stable

http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-oxygen

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#16 2011-03-31 19:00:01

differentieel
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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

thank you kultex for your efforts to help on this issue

i have to conclude something you guys already know; Cooking is not useful for Thin Clients in the T5700 series. if i am not able to start-up on 3 different TC's with different BIOS versions - - but a small kubuntu will startup from USB - then there is no other reason then - Cooking is not ready yet.

so - i'll stay with stable - the important TC for the art-installation i'm working on is still running only with the wrong surround card - tomorrow change-day to a supported type the Audigy -  i have to finish the job in 8 days - i have to make that decision now.

on the other hand SliTaz is working without any complains as a headless TC. unplug keyboard, mouse and screen: stable is starting-up and running.

thank you for all your patience - - - -

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#17 2011-04-01 07:16:13

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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

just a tip - I use geode machines - the best is a fujitso futro A250 on ebay or the msi fuzzi

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/MSI-FUZZY-LX800-AMD-Geode-500Mhz-MINI-ITX-MOTHERBOARD-/200539342200

- with different sound cards as soundserver for exibitions - for 5.1 the TERRATEC AUREON 5.1 USB works fine - but you will find it just on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.at/TERRATEC-AUREON-5-1-USB-MKII-/330547543275?pt=DE_Technik_Computerzubeh%C3%B6r_Multimedia&hash=item4cf62b3ceb

if you dont need a screen the most energy efficiant sound server would be a bricked seagate dockstar (http://jeff.doozan.com/debian/)

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#18 2011-05-25 15:30:01

differentieel
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Re: how to get a PCI 5.1 sound card working on a thinclient

need help again, sorry

i thought i was pretty sure that the soundcard i installed Sound Blaster Audigy SE would produce a 5.1 surround

when checking the Mplayer from the command line i discovered that mplayer downmixed the AC3 audiostream to 2 channels in stead of the 3 inside the file

screen:

Playing /home/tux/my3channel.ac3

libavformat file detected

[lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 0

==================================

Forced audio codec: hwa3

Opening audio decoder: [hwac3] AC3/DTS pass-trough S/PDIF

No accelerated IMDCT transform found

hwac3: switched to AC3 9600 bps, 44100 Hz

AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, ac3, 96.0 kbit/6.80% (ration: 12000->176400)

Selected audio codec: [hwac3] afm: hwac3 (AC3 trough S/PDIF)

==================================

AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch AC3 (1 bytes per sample)

[format] Sample format big-endian AC3 not supported

could not find matching filter/ao format

Video: no video

Starting playback

- about the pass-trough: on my soundcard i am not able to use S/PDIF - output must be analog audio

- settings in the amixer for S/PDIF is off

- volume for all channels in amixer is 70%

- the AC3 audio stream has 3 channels L - C - R

- card setting has: channels=6

is someone familiar with this phenomenon

help is much appreciated

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