how to install slitaz on dell c600?

aquario455 · 2012-10-20 21:50:14

hello!

I would like to install slitaz-4.0.iso on dell c600, I tried but I can't yet:

- This laptop works very good with ubuntu 10.04.4 lts

- Within Windows I used yumi to make a bootable usb (1 gb)

- I use a floppy disk with plop boot manager to enable boot from usb

- So I can boot the usb, the menu of yumi appears, then I select the "Default" option (menu slitaz)

- the slitaz desktop only shows 2 icons, but I cant see the panels (top and bottom). So I cant make the installation (there is a manual installation using the terminal, but it is a little more complicated)

please, can anybody tell me how can I get the panels? (the top panel has a button to open a window which has the option to begin the installation, and the bottom panel allows me to choose the Applications)

christophe · 2012-10-20 22:48:38

try

ctrl+alt+del -> root login

type "slim"

does that work ?

You can also try:

from the desktop without the panel, right click to get some menu, you can start a terminal in the submenu

and in the terminal type

$ killall lxpanel

$ lxpanel

does that start the lxpanel as expected ?

aquario455 · 2012-10-21 00:02:37

hi christophe!

when I press CTRL+ALT+DEL nothing happens

when I execute on terminal "killall lxpanel" it says "killall: lxpanel: no process killed"

when I execute on terminal "lxpanel" it says "Floating point exception"

so I cant get the panels yet

see you!

christophe · 2012-10-21 00:12:37

that sounds like a very weird problem

Question, are you sure your hw is not defaulting here ?

Were you successfully running XP or ubuntu ?

Try something else, i think from the menu you can also disconnect; then try to reconnect.

Something more: check the md5sum of your ISO. This could be a culprit too.

My understanding is that you are booting out of a USB key; eventually, try to boot from another key to make sure your key is not defect.

lexeii · 2012-10-21 02:29:33

The better way to see both original SliTaz panels is:

[c]lxpanel --profile slitaz &[/c]
But, I agree with Christophe, mostly possible you have broken files.

Take a look here too: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/lxpanel-is-not-stable

mojo · 2012-10-21 03:07:37

This command opens the tazpanel installer:

[c]tazweb http://tazpanel:82/installer.cgi?page=home[/c]

If the installer won't launch YUMI didn't clean install slitaz to USB.

aquario455 · 2012-10-21 04:05:12

hi!

christophe: Were you successfully running XP or ubuntu ?

- trust me This laptop runs very good winxpsp2 or ubuntu 10.04.4 lts

christophe: Try something else, i think from the menu you can also disconnect; then try to reconnect.

- I dont understand this. Could you explain that a little more?

christophe: Something more: check the md5sum of your ISO. This could be a culprit too.

My understanding is that you are booting out of a USB key; eventually, try to boot from another key to make sure your key is not defect.

- I guess the iso is ok. I downloaded several times to avoid virus. This usb flash is ok, because it works with other distributions like linux mint, etc. Also I dont use a cd (700 MB) because the size of slitaz is about 30 MB so i think is unnecessary

Aleksej: lxpanel --profile slitaz &

- nothing happens

mojo: tazweb http://tazpanel:82/installer.cgi?page=home

- yes, thank you, this window (tazpanel - installer) has the option "install". Then I am going to install slitaz. I hope everything is ok.

bye, bye!

aquario455 · 2012-10-21 05:09:59

hi!

I have installed slitaz!:

1) As ususal I boot from usb (I have to use diskette with plop boot manager)

2) Gparted: As I told previously, I cant see the panels, so I did right clic on desktop > Favorite applications > Terminal > su > root > gparted (I only created the partition "/dev/hda6" for slitaz, because the others were created previously)

- "/dev/hda1" - "ntfs" - "14.65 GB" - "boot (flag)"

- "/dev/hda2" - "extended" - "22.61 GB"

- "unallocated" - "unallocated" - "1.00 MB"

- "/dev/hda6" - "ext3" - "7.81 GB"

- "unallocated" - "unallocated" - "13.85 GB"

- /dev/hda5" - "linux-swap" - "976 MB"

3) Tazpanel - Installer:

- slitaz source media: "/home/tux/slitaz-4.0.iso"

- hard disk drive: "/dev/hda6" (I dont check "format partition as ext3")

- home partition: (I dont check "use a separate partition for /home...")

- hostname: slitaz

- user: tux

- grub: "enable windows dual-boot"

The installation was completed ok, but when I reboot from HD there is this message:

"error: file not found

grub rescue>"

I have enabled the windows dual-boot, why there is no grub? how to fix this issue?

thanks for pay attention, see you tomorrow! good night!

christophe · 2012-10-21 15:21:51

Most likely, grub is installed but not configured properly.

(Though it should not happen, this already happened to me at installation time)

Configure it manually

Start from your usb again

then check /boot/grub/menu.lst

(the version which is on you hdd so rather, check /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst, with the appropriate mount point prefixed)

On a system here the entry is:

title Slitaz

root (hd0,1)

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/hda2 quiet

do your homework to ensure the appropriate /dev/hdaX is addressed and the grub entry is correctly filled.

aquario455 · 2012-10-21 17:23:17

hi christophe!

1) I use to mount:

#mkdir -p /mnt/hda6

#mount -t ext3 /dev/hda6 /mnt/hda6

2) I edit menu.lst (/mnt/hda6/boot/grub):

#leafpad menu.lst

This is my menu.lst (edited):

=====================================

# /boot/grub/menu.lst: GRUB boot loader configuration.

#

# By default, boot the first entry.

default 0

# Boot automatically after 8 secs.

timeout 8

# Graphical splash image.

splashimage=/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

# Change the colors.

#color yellow/brown light-green/black

# For booting SliTaz from : /dev/hda6

#

title SliTaz GNU/Linux (cooking) (Kernel vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz)

root (hd0,5)

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-slitaz root=/dev/hda6 quiet

# For booting Windows :

#

title Microsoft Windows

rootnoverify (hd0,0)

chainloader +1

================================================

3) I save the menu.lst

How to unmount that partition that I mounted? (I tried "#umount /mnt/hda6", and it says "invalid argument")

4) when I reboot from HD there is the same problem:

"error: file not found

grub rescue>"

Later I opened /mnt/hda6/boot/grub but there is no the file "splash.xpm.gz" (I tried copying it from the USB live files, but there is the same problem). So I dont know what to do

please can anybody tell me what is wrong? how to fix this issue?

domcox · 2012-10-21 18:14:53

What is the output of:

[c]# parted -l[/c]

Otherwise, try to reinstall GRUB onto the MBR (Master Boot Record) with the following command:

[c]# grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda6 /dev/hda[/c]

aquario455 · 2012-10-21 22:30:13

hi domcox!

thank you for the answer!

when I reinstalled GRUB onto MBR with the command:

# grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda6 /dev/hda

finally I got the grub, so now I can boot from HD, and I can choose "slitaz" or "windows" (both of them work)

- how can I copy the output of this command "# parted -l" (just keyboard, without a mouse)?

- although slitaz is already installed on HD, unfortunately the desktop only shows 2 icons (My Documents, Documentation), there aren't the panels. How can I get the panels?

Thank you very much for helping me!

lexeii · 2012-10-22 00:00:31

Hi aquario455,

how can I copy the output of this command "# parted -l" (just keyboard, without a mouse)?

Actually, you do not need it now. But there is a trick:

[*]Open terminal. By default terminal opens in the home folder.

[*]Type [c]su[/c], password, and [c]parted -l > output.txt[/c]

[*]Open text file [c]output.txt[/c] (from your home folder) with your graphical text editor

[*]Press [Ctrl+A] to select all, and [Ctrl+C] to copy selected text

[*]Switch to your graphical browser, move focus to textfield (using [Tab]), adjust cursor position, and press [Ctrl+V] to paste copied text

+++

You can look up lxpanel package for errors:

[c]# tazpkg repack lxpanel[/c]
If there are errors in md5 checksum(i.e. some files are broken), then you'll see it. If all right, then you get package in the current directory, you can just remove it.

If you have internet connection, you can try to reinstall lxpanel:

[c]# tazpkg recharge
# tazpkg -gi lxpanel --forced[/c]

aquario455 · 2012-10-22 01:58:54

Hi Aleksej!

The method "su, password, and parted -l > output.txt" works with some commands, but not with the next command:

# tazpkg repack lxpanel

The previous command shows:

cpio: etc/lxpanel/default/panels/panel not created: newer or same age file exists

cpio: etc/lxpanel/default/config not created: newer or same age file exists

can't repack, md5sum error.

# tazpkg recharge

The previous commando shows "Main is up to date"

# tazpkg -gi lxpanel --forced

the previous comman shows: "installation of: lxpanel... lxpanel (0.5.8) is installed", but nothing happens.

when I reboot at first the desktop seems to show the panels but then they disappear inmediately again

what happen with this laptop dell latitude c600?

I wish a solution!

see you! bye!

christophe · 2012-10-22 12:45:07

As i suggested, there is a good chance that your ISO was broken in the first place,

I would recommend you download the ISO again, check the md5sum for errors

and then reinstall, now that you pretty much master the whole installation process.

Slitaz is small enough that this should not take too long, and you carefully check the MD5SUM for errors, at least we will KNOW we have sorted out that specific issue.

I do not see why you would have specific problems of this kind on a C600 (I have a C400 which runs slitaz v3)

mojo · 2012-10-22 13:44:52

lxpanel files fail md5sum:

[c]# tazpkg repack lxpanel[/c]

The previous command shows:

[c]cpio: etc/lxpanel/default/panels/panel not created: newer or same age file exists
cpio: etc/lxpanel/default/config not created: newer or same age file exists[/c]
can't repack, md5sum error.

When lxpanel files are good:

[c]tux@slitaz:~$ tazpkg repack lxpanel
Repacking : lxpanel-0.5.8.tazpkg
================================================================================
cpio: etc/lxpanel/default/panels/panel not created: newer or same age file exists
cpio: etc/lxpanel/default/config not created: newer or same age file exists[/c]
Package lxpanel repacked successfully.

[c]Size : 124.0K lxpanel-0.5.8.tazpkg[/c]

Your not downloading/installing a fresh copy of lxpanel,are you connected to the internet?:

[c]# tazpkg -gi lxpanel --forced[/c]
the previous comman shows: "installation of: lxpanel... lxpanel (0.5.8) is installed", but nothing happens.

You should see:

[c]root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazpkg -gi lxpanel --forced

Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (94.23.209.91:80)
lxpanel-0.5.8.tazpk 100% |*******************************| 123k 0:00:00 ETA

Installation of : lxpanel
================================================================================
Copying lxpanel... [ Done ]
Extracting lxpanel... [ Done ]
Extracting the pseudo fs... [ Done ]
Saving configuration files for lxpanel... [ Done ]
Installing lxpanel... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
================================================================================
lxpanel (0.5.8) is installed.[/c]

aquario455 · 2012-10-22 20:19:48

hi christophe and mojo!

Then you suggest me to make a new installation, right?

ok, I will do it:

- download a new iso (slitaz-4.0.iso)

- make a bootable usb (I will use yumi because it can let me add many distros in the same usb flash drive)

I hope this time there wont be the same problems

thank you guys! see you later!

Trixar_za · 2012-10-22 20:45:08

Use core from http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/stable/flavors

You'll get better results with LiveUSB creation software using core iso rather than the default 4-in-1 iso.

aquario455 · 2012-10-23 02:14:37

saludos a todos!

As I told, I did a new installation

I erase the entire disk and installed first windows, second puppy linux:

- "/dev/hda1" "ntfs" "19.53 gb" "boot (flags)" (windows xp sp2)

- "/dev/hda2" "extended" "17.73 gb"

- "/dev/hda5" "linux-swap" "1.00 gb"

- "/dev/hda6" "ext4" "7.81 gb" (slacko puppy linux 533)

- "/dev/hda7" "ext3" "8.91 gb" (for slitaz 4.0)

then I downloaded slitaz-4.0 (official link), after that I made a bootable usb using yumi.

I can boot from usb (i have to use a floppy with plop boot manager)

at first the desktop had the panels (I was happy), but unfortunately they disappeared automatically in 10 seconds. So I guess I will have the same problems and I didnt installed slitaz on hd

now what am I expected to do? what's wrong? iso? yumi? plop boot manager?

but I have used yumi and plop with other distributions, and both of them worked without any trouble

hi Trixar_za!

are those versions the same? Are they different (kernel, desktop environment, etc.)?

I decided I will wait for more suggestions before to install slitaz

I installed windows for games, Slacko Puppy Linux because is another lightweight distribution (although it runs as root, the browsers have a weird kind of issues, it uses more ram, etc ). Ubuntu 10.04.4 lts works very good on this dell c600 (850mhz, 384mb ram, 8mb video, 40gb hd, etc.) but the support ends in april. So I didnt installed it because I would like to find another good distribution (lubuntu 12.04 doesnt work on this machine)

I wish slitaz can be what I am looking for

thanks for continuous support, bye!

lexeii · 2012-10-23 03:16:07

Hi aquario455,

Do you ever read link that I gave you at the very beginning? Is this similar to your case?

quote:

On my laptop lxpanel always crashes with floating point exception (cause of laptop battery applet).

You want to find a way to edit lxpanel config manually and remove battery applet from it:

In your home directory, under ~/.config/lxpanel (“.config” is hidden directory, by the way) you can find several config files. Here folder “default” and “slitaz” (if you run lxpanel or lxpanel --profile slitaz). Open file in text editor. Search for word “batt”, find and remove this chunk completely:

[c]Plugin {
type = batt
Config {
HideIfNoBattery=0
AlarmCommand=xmessage Battery low
AlarmTime=5
BackgroundColor=black
BorderWidth=1
ChargingColor1=#28f200
ChargingColor2=#22cc00
DischargingColor1=#ffee00
DischargingColor2=#d9ca00
Size=8
}
}[/c]
Yes, you can have different numbers. Just delete this chunk from all config files. If your user is tux, look in these files:

/home/tux/.config/lxpanel/default/panels/panel

/home/tux/.config/lxpanel/slitaz/panels/panel

christophe · 2012-10-24 00:08:21

i have struggled with the default lxpanel

In fact with 4.0, right after loging in, i

$ killall lxpanel

$ lxpanel --profile default

I found the profile that loads automatically (ie, lxpanel --profile slitaz) has problems if you try to change the layouts (but did not investigate much about why); using the default profile solved it, and i tuned it to my needs

You may want to try that if removing the battery plugin is not sufficient

aquario455 · 2012-10-27 21:57:40

hi Aleksej!

Well. I waited so long for suggestions..., now I did a new installation. this time I used the slitaz-4.0-core.iso

Unfortunately there are no panels

I cant edit lxde config file, because these locations are empty: "/home/tux/.config/lxpanel", "/home/tux/.config/lxpanel/slitaz"

lexeii · 2012-10-28 00:39:32

Hi aquario455,

Go to /etc/lxpanel/

Copy folders

[c]/etc/lxpanel/default → /home/tux/.config/lxpanel/default
/etc/lxpanel/original → /home/tux/.config/lxpanel/original
/etc/lxpanel/slitaz → /home/tux/.config/lxpanel/slitaz[/c]
Kill broken LXPanel with command: [c]killall lxpanel[/c]

Launch new LXPanel with different profiles (one at a time):

[c]lxpanel -p default
or
lxpanel -p slitaz
or
lxpanel -p original[/c]
Try to delete battery applet from config file as I wrote earlier (profile original already have not batt applet).

aquario455 · 2012-10-28 02:39:05

hey Aleksej!

good evening!

I copied the folders:

/etc/lxpanel/default → /home/tux/.config/lxpanel/default

/etc/lxpanel/original → /home/tux/.config/lxpanel/original

/etc/lxpanel/slitaz → /home/tux/.config/lxpanel/slitaz

Then I tried to kill broken LXPanel with command:

killall lxpanel

the message I get is "no process killed" (I think there is something wrong...)

lexeii · 2012-10-28 13:47:26

Omg!

Again and again. What's next? What I was wrote? Start lxpanel with various profiles?

I'm not a extrasence, I can't know if you started your lxpanel or not. You not wrote it. Or you not complete read my post yet?

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