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#101 2013-02-24 15:13:26

kultex
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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

just to the question udevil.conf

here is the udevil.conf of antix

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#102 2013-02-24 15:33:33

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

udevil.conf seems the default one, i would add a rule to allow only disk group to mount - umount things

the udisks in repos is udisks2, which is supported by gvfs.

there is also udisks1 which should be smaller and directly supported from libfm if built with the right configure option.

i would move udisks* to udisks2*, fixing dependencies in packages depending on it (very few :-)  ) and push two new udisks* and try to builld libfm against it, the way arch linux does. then with pcmanfm we could use udisks1 for local devices and optionally gvfs for trash, ssh and samba.

i could split gvfs in gvfs-smb gvfs-udisks2 and so on to reduce size of default iso

i think that only udevil+spacefm can do without polkit and keep a reasonable security level

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#103 2013-02-24 16:22:32

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

I think, it is a bit like the difference between network.sh and wicd

udevil+spacefm needs a bit of handwork - could be integrated in SliTAz-Panel

and pcmanfm+gvfs+udisks is like wicd

ok we wait on your decision

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#104 2013-02-24 16:59:38

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

i was asking your permission :-)

if you agree i'll do everything then you will decide what to put in default live iso

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#105 2013-02-24 17:05:42

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

http://ignorantguru.github.com/udevil/udevil.conf.txt

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#106 2013-02-25 03:11:46

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

Who's interested in yesterday's Rolling logs?

[c]. . .
Detecting USB devices Kernel modules...
grep: /lib/modules/3.2-slitaz/modules.usbmap: No such file or directory
. . .

Configuring Xorg...
Starting X environment...Failed to start message bus: Could not get UID and GID for
username "messagebus"
[ Done ]
. . .

WARNING: IPtables rules are disabled
. . .

Obt-Message: Xinerama extension is not present on the server
Obt-Message: Failed to open an Input Method
Openbox-Message: X server does not support locale.
Openbox-Message: Cannot set locale modifiers for the X server.

** (spacefm:1357): WARNING **: No root settings found in /etc/spacefm/
   Setting a root editor in Preferences should remove this warning on startup.
   Otherwise commands run as root may present a security risk.
tray: another systray already running
Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default[/c]
Please, see full logs in attachment.

SpaceFM see no partitions, screen resolution 800×600 instead of 1024×600, letters are big, and other…

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#107 2013-02-25 10:31:25

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

just for the xorg errors:

Pascal removed intel and nv driver and I think, it should be also removed mesa, mesa-dri and mesa-dri-intel - as I did on my iso. The problem is, that I do not find them in the flavors list, so why there are in the iso? installed by some depencies?

I am not home - Aleksej can you check, if they are present on new rolling?

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#108 2013-02-25 13:01:35

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

Hi Tom,

I'm not at home too. Smartphone, email and Opera Mobile...

Packages list: http://hg.slitaz.org/flavors/file/cfe45f283798/core/packages.list (packages mentioned above are absent)

Rolling log: http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/slitaz-rolling.log (too long listing)

TOO MANY tazpkg errors!

But I can't find "mesa" text on that page.

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#109 2013-02-25 15:43:06

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

good to know, where to look - so they are not present....

but whats missing is libdrm-intel - can you try to install it and restart X?  - as soon, as you are back?

in my iso I installed also

libdrm-intel, libdrm-mach64, libdrm-nouveau, libdrm-radeon

because I found in debian, that vesa is depending on them.....

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#110 2013-02-27 14:50:31

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

Akeksej,

first - I included a udevil.conf, where you can mount all internal hard disks - but in general, we have to think about security.......

and you would do me a great pleasure, if you could give me the output from lsmod and Xorg.0.log from my iso and the new rolling iso - I dont have widescreen monitors at the moment, so I can not check

Thomas

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#111 2013-02-27 19:01:33

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

some SpaceFm und udevil things - if we stay with them, we have to enable Kernel Polling

http://ignorantguru.github.com/spacefm/spacefm-manual-en.html#devices-kernpoll

and searching on the Udev bug

root@slitaz:/lib/udev# ./write_cd_rules

Missing $DEVPATH.

root@slitaz:/lib/udev#

its seems not to be a Udev bug - it seems to be Kernel config related

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694782 - the important line:

Then fix your kernel config, you need /dev/sr* devices instead of /dev/hd*.

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#112 2013-02-27 19:37:41

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

@kultex,

Here answer to your 4h old post.

In the archive you'll find: lsmod and Xorg.0.log files in 3 variants: kultex (from your iso), rolling1 (2 days ago), rolling2 (I've upgrade my rolling frugal installation just now).

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#113 2013-02-27 20:02:09

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

thx Aleksej / I will see later

I just will upload some kernel configs, to find out whats wrong with the ide devices

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#114 2013-02-27 21:08:16

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

@Aleksej thats really very exiting - I have to run the rolling iso on my EEE-Pc on the weekend

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#115 2013-02-28 10:47:52

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

it should be "CONFIG_IDE is not set"

i'll test it

PS about udisks1 i built it but i can't get to make libfm use it, so i'll push it and give up,i'm loosing too much time here and udisks1 is not smaller than udisks2, so the only save in space would be the no need for gvfs, which leads to no trash and no ssh:// smb:// , i think we have other issues to fix before this.

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#116 2013-02-28 13:45:33

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

and I think we should update to 3.2.39

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Kernel-3-2-39-LTS-Is-Available-for-Download-331021.shtml

I mean, I like pumpkin, but I dont like to be turned into a pumkin....

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#117 2013-03-01 17:27:55

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

@Aleksej - just to look rolling from 22.02. on different machines

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#118 2013-03-01 18:10:03

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

i think that if we want to to go back and use vesa as default for the live cd we should move all of the kernel video module in a separate package which should not be included in the live cd, so vesa can load

modern X are able to configure themselves i think, maybe we could use tazx only if something goes wrong and x does not start?

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#119 2013-03-01 21:13:25

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

I dont want to go back to vesa, because vesa does not handle nvida ........ - I think the combination vesa and fbdev is quite ok - there are some questions, but general it is the best one - I think

like my eee-pc is a Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller and evrything works perfect -

so my question is, why the modules on Aleksejs machine are not loaded with the iso from 22.2.

thats the difference:

cpufrequtils

gvfs

libdrm-intel

libdrm-mach64

libdrm-nouveau

libdrm-radeon

libfm

libgudev

linux-acpi

linux-cpufreq

mc       

Aleksej - did you check the md5sum?

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#120 2013-03-01 21:48:00

ernia
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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

[c]vesa does not handle nvidia[/c]

why not?

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#121 2013-03-02 05:54:27

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

@kultex

here you can find a linux 3.2.39 whithout the deprecated ide support, if you want to test it

http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/86845098/file.html

if you boot from an hd device remember to change hd* to sd* in the grub menu

let me know if it solves something about spacefm cdrom support.

PS other link: http://www.slingfile.com/file/as2rSRaFBa

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#122 2013-03-05 10:04:08

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

because of tragic circumstances with one of my best friends I will not have much time - at least the next month, but it can be also the whole next year. So it would be good if others can also help Ernia to test.

@ernia I have attached and changed my attatchments in this one post on page 8 - it is always kernel-config followed by lsmod followed by kernel followed by demesg  - most interesting is ctkarch, because there the modules are not included in the kernel

so these modules are interesting for booting and udevil:

sg                     21196  0

sd_mod                 25488  0

sr_mod                 13569  1

cdrom                  31666  1 sr_mod

ahci                   17693  0

libahci                15536  1 ahci

ata_piix               18266  1

pata_acpi               2348  0

ata_generic             2511  0

uhci_hcd               19163  0

libata                151324  5 ahci,libahci,ata_piix,pata_acpi,ata_generic

ehci_hcd               34522  0

scsi_mod              107414  4 sg,sd_mod,sr_mod,libata

usbcore               117240  4 usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd

for udevil - I think the main problem is:

# CONFIG_PATA_ACPI is not set

# CONFIG_ATA_GENERIC is not set

# CONFIG_PATA_LEGACY is not set

for the problems with usb-DVD booting I still need more time for analysing

and sorry, I had no time to try your 3.2.39 kernel - I hope, I can test it within this week

@Aleksej !!!! - we really need your help to find the problem what is the difference between my iso and the rolling from 22.2.

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#123 2013-03-05 10:16:21

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

forgot something:

dmesg part of CTKarch:

pata_acpi 0000:00:1f.1: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18

pata_acpi 0000:00:1f.1: setting latency timer to 64

pata_acpi 0000:00:1f.1: PCI INT A disabled

pata_acpi 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19

pata_acpi 0000:00:1f.2: setting latency timer to 64

pata_acpi 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT B disabled

ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: version 2.13

ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18

ata_piix 0000:00:1f.1: setting latency timer to 64

scsi0 : ata_piix

scsi1 : ata_piix

ata1: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xffa0 irq 14

ata2: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xffa8 irq 15

ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19

ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 P2 -- -- ]

ata_piix 0000:00:1f.2: setting latency timer to 64

scsi2 : ata_piix

scsi3 : ata_piix

ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xe080 ctl 0xe000 bmdma 0xd800 irq 19

ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xdc00 ctl 0xd880 bmdma 0xd808 irq 19

ata1.01: ATAPI: MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-875S, 1.00, max UDMA/33

ata3.00: ATA-7: ST9160821AS, 3.ALC, max UDMA/133

ata3.00: 312581808 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)

ata1.01: configured for UDMA/33

scsi 0:0:1:0: CD-ROM            MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-875S  1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      ST9160821AS      3.AL PQ: 0 ANSI: 5

sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda caddy

cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20

sr 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0

here is the dmesg part of SliTaz:

Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver

piix 0000:00:1f.1: IDE controller (0x8086:0x266f rev 0x04)

pci 0000:00:1f.1: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18

piix 0000:00:1f.1: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later

    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7

    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf

Probing IDE interface ide0...

Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 900.092 MHz.

Switching to clocksource tsc

hdb: MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-875S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive

hdb: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4

hdb: UDMA/33 mode selected

Probing IDE interface ide1...

ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14

ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15

ide_generic: please use "probe_mask=0x3f" module parameter for probing all legacy ISA IDE ports

ide-gd driver 1.18

ide-cd driver 5.00

ide-cd: hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM DVD-R/RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache

cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20

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#124 2013-03-05 10:26:21

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

i'm sorry about your friend, i wish you all the best.

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#125 2013-03-06 12:06:05

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Re: Talks about cooking status/bugs/suggestions/etc

had some time left for usbboot problem

I think it is

# CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB_TT is not set

# CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED is not set

I will open a seperate thread to collect changes in the kernel

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