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Arun compiled a new kernel, with the new ide config (now ide devices are sd.. and not hd.. devices - take care, when you use and usb stick for home=/dev/sda1 - it will change to /dev/sdb1) so I could do this iso for testing.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/92249974/slitaz-test-3.2.50-04092013.iso
I included CPU-scaling, which in my oppinion should be included in 5.0 - its important for battery consumption on laptops. But to reduce power consumption is not only essential for portable computers: it is also essential to use it on desktop machines to reduce unnecessary CO2 emissions (about 20% less).
I included also wbar, because 80% of my friends, where i installed SliTaz, want it with wbar - in the mac way, wbar down and the panel up (I prefer it the other way round) - it starts not automatic - there is a button in the panel. If you want to change the look and behavior edit /home/tux/.wbar (second line) and click right on wbar - it is adapted for my small 12" 1024 x 728 monitor
info about wbar http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201101/page16.html - under commandline settings you see what all the shortcuts mean.
I removed gparted and parted - parted seems to work only compiled with the right kernel so please do not install and use it - I destroid my harddisk and could recover it only with cfdisk
Known bug: Eject does not work - this is a problem with udev / udevil / spacefm
EDIT - 03.09.2013
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included wbar starter for portable QtWeb-Browser and Firefox
Firefox - download from http://www.mozilla.org, extract it with spacefm (doubleclick) and copy evrything whats in the folder firefox-23.0.1/firefox to /home/tux/.firefox
QtWeb download from http://qtweb.net + extract it with "unzip QtWeb-elf386.zip /home/tux/.qtweb" and make QtWeb be able to execute (right click with spacefm - Properties - Permission)
and edit wbar in your home directory (remove # for Firefox / QtWeb)
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Somehow I'm up to kernel 3.10.x - but well done on a fixed release 
I'll admit I'm struggling a bit because buildroot really does give you a shitload of options. I'm not really sure what's essential and what's not 
Incidentally, expect an email allowing you to play with it too 
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tried it. It boots in my VM, in text mode only, and slim or startx leads to a black screen... 
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Tested in virtualbox and is working perfect. Looks to me faster than 4 !!!
Wery nice work, Kultex & Arun !
Regards,
Tibi
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Just burned a CD and booted my old PII 350Mhz.
All went fine and I wrote this message from this.
I like wbar very much. Have used docky on my Arch distro, but wbar looks slim and nice.
Could you include QtWeb as default browser ?
Again, nice work guys !
Regards,
Tibi
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I hope I will have time on sunday to work on it - I will not include QtWeb, but I will include all the necessary files for Opera, Firefox and QtWeb so that you just have to extract the download - all are running from the /home directory - so evrybody can choose.
The main question / problem for me is which filemanager we use and how we mount. First, that the user mounts is a security problem - it should be done with the group plugdev - for me thats a must.
Then do we use V1: spacefm + udevil or V2: pcmanfm+udisks+gvfs. Version 1 is definitly smaller and quicker, but ignorantguru, the developer disappiered 6 month ago. Discussion about this started already here: http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/notes-to-new-cooking/page/7 and I will start a new thread abut this question, to keep this thread on testing the iso.
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kultex,
Another very nice dock-like bar is Avant Window Navigator (Awn)
https://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
now on
https://launchpad.net/awn
You may want to give it a try.
Regards,
tibi
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Hi Kultex!
Nice try. Tested your ISO with Kernel 3.2.50 from Mailing list (is it the same?). And it works good. And now I'm write from your system. As usually, it needs to some tweaking to my needs.
LXPanel
1. I need Keyboard layout switcher. I'm Russian, and we use two layouts: US (Latin) and RU (Cyrillic) and switch keyboard between them. I live in Ukraine, sometimes we use here Ukrainian layout to write documents Official language.
Guys! I have an idea to add "Keyboard Layout Handler" to LXPanel using our standard script /usr/bin/tazx for all (?) or for selected locales (?)
But I don't know: WHO NEED THIS PANEL ITEM?
I know only about Russian and Ukrainian. Possibly, Greek? Any other? PLEASE, tell me!
And here sub-topic: Compose key. I need it, and can configure it in "Keyboard Layout Handler".
I use it to write some symbols that I missed in the keyboard: «»“”‘’׉©☺…
Only need to write [c]compose:ralt[/c] (for Right Alt key) in the "Keyboard Layout Handler" right box and press disk icon on this box. [OR write default LXPanel config for all SliTaz users?]
And I know French people use Modifier key (again Right Alt?) to write accented and other symbols:
[c]azerty[/c] without RAlt and
[c]æ«€¶ŧ←[/c] with RAlt.
2. "Volume Control" now change their icon, good.
3. "Temperature monitor" works, good.
4. "Manage networks" miss icons, bad.
5. "Task Bar (Window List)" is not good for me. I need more standard look -- text close to icons.
SpaceFM
1. SpaceFM is still strange for me, but it matter of choise.
2. SpaceFM can mount my Hard Disk partitions and USB Flash. SpaceFM opens new tab when USB Flash insert. Have no problems with NTFS partition with Characters Encodings.
All this worth to use this strange filemanager.
Multimedia
ALSAPlayer is small and usable. But my music collection have many tracks in mp4 container (with AAC inside). Before, in SliTaz 4.0 I used Audacity (or Audacious? Can't remember it name!) And I believe that Alsaplayer need to loose it Big Speed Control, but it is question to Alsaplayer's developers.
YouTube. Still not works without FlashPlayer Now, when I do not have Wi-Fi, I do not watch Youtube, but wanted to try. What about HTML5 video player?
Video Player. Rarely, about once every few months, I can see the video. Then, on SliTaz 4.0 I used VLC (yes, it's Qt based, with all Qt libs), it's not light, but it works.
Seems like I need to add Multimedia Keys handling to the default Openbox rc file (change volume, mute, log off...)
Development
As far as I'm a developer, I need a developer tools.
I really need Geany. I remember that old versions of SliTaz contains it, but then we loose it in default ISO. Ok, I can download it manually, as far as all there mentioned.
_____
So, here are final questions.
Who need keyboard switcher?
Do we need standard Task Bar (not icons only; with windows names, and not groupped) by default?
Kultex & Arun, thanks to your work!
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I've been running into similar issues. If it was just an act of building the kernel with busybox and udev, it would be simple, but I can decide on what to include and compile into the image file. This includes codecs, frameworks and several common apps. I just need to dive through them and get it done.
My biggest issue has been the damn file manager too. Also from recently having to work with rox-filer, I've come to despise it. SpaceFM isn't my cup of tea and neither is the 'new' pcmanfm with it's gvfs (amongst others) dependency. razor-qt with pcmanfm-qt is really starting to look good now.
Flash player needs several parts from Netscape and Mozilla to work. Note, I didn't say Firefox because it turns out we provide the required libraries in other packages namely nss and nspr. I haven't checked if it covers all of them, but hopefully we can strip out the libfirefox requirement from flashplayer...
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@Aleksej its nearly the same - just some more little changes
and yes keyboardswitcher is needed - like all my baltic friends need it also like you and some need 4 keyboards - lithuanian, russian, french and german ...
whats about this
http://wiki.slavka.kiev.ua/index.php/XXkb - you will understand....
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=62979
and I personally preferred it with keyboard shortcut - http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Change_keyboard_layouts
found something else: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=87702.0
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ran it in frugal mode from iso on a Fujitsu Lifebook S Series
- boot in text mode; root/root then slim = OK
- seems to be faster than rolling
- SpaceFM now sees my HDs (no need to mount them manually as with rolling)
- Sound=OK (no sound with rolling)
- After an upgrade of Wbar and logout/login, no more icon for Wbar and doesn't work anymore.
Promising for the future ;-) nice work!
Concerning QtWeb, I test it for 2 weeks on SliTaz 4 installed on a P4 1.5. Really fast web browser, much faster than Midori or even TazWeb. Still a few bugs (and the french translation is so bad that I use english language)
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why you upgrade Wbar, because mine is newer and smaller than in Slitaz - I converted it from debian and I think I used 2.3.4 http://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list - Slitaz rolling is on 2.2.2 and 2.3.4 has different syntax
and why you logged in as root? normal user login did not work?
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Hi kultex,
why you upgrade Wbar
I was testing TazPanel. After the Recharge list, I mechanically checked for upgrades, clicked on Toggle all and then Install.
But I realise that it was certainly stupid of me to upgrade the test iso file. It couldn't have so many packages to update in just one day...
I never think enough...
why you logged in as root? normal user login did not work?
Yesterday evening, same punition as Christophe: black screen.
But this afternoon, after reading your post, I've tested it again and... no problem: I booted 10-15 times just typing [c]tux[/c] and then [c]startx[/c].
But in this case wbar doesn't work (nothing happens) and the exit option of the SliTaz Logout windows never works, I have to hit [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Backspace] and then type [c]exit[/c] to change session; halt and reboot are OK (by the way, it misses a "l" in the text for exit option)
BUT...
For more than one hour it did not boot with tux excepted in this way:[c]
slitaz login: tux
tux@slitaz:~$ slim
tux@slitaz:~$ startx
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And then it's worked again a few times without I change anything and now it doesn't work again...
???
When I'm logged as root and launch slim, never problem; SliTaz starts as tux without asking me and when I exit, the Login windows opens. And all is working fine.
Today I've noted two strange things:
[*]when something is open (SpaceFM or Midori or...), prompt does not appear when opening Sakura till you hit a key
[*]yesterday I can have the help text typing [c]wbar -help[/c] in a terminal; today depending if I'm tux or root:
[c]
tux@slitaz:~$ wbar -help
Problem load font file. /usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavuesans.ttf
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/claws-mail.png Couldn't load icon image.
root@slitaz:/home/tux# wbar -help
Problem load font file. /usr/share/fonts/truetype/liberation/LiberationMono-Regular/12[/c]
In this case (root), a button appears on the left side of the screen annd whem I click on it:
[c]sh: wbar-config: not found[/c]
Oh yes I found! It was because I've done the upgrade of Wbar that it was working, I just check it.
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Cell, thanks a lot for your intensive testing
first - I have done quite a lot of small changes and any upgrade is dangerous, that something gets broken. The question is, are my changes working and what should be included in 5.0
I have the same "problems" with login on my portege with the trident grafic card - only tux / slim / startx works from text mode, but with autologin I have no problem.
one more question: does tazx work on youre machine - boot to text, log in, get root, run tazx get tux again and startx and please post also the output of lspci
and just in case - dont use the iso from the mailing list only this one linked in the first post - there are some more bugs in iso from the mailing list
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Hi kultex,
The question is, are my changes working and what should be included in 5.0
All that I used work fine (excepted I cannot play with Wbar options but really not a major problem).
What should be included in 5.0? My opinion is SliTaz must remain SliTaz: light, fast and free; free to adapt it as we like. I never thank enough SliTaz developers for saving my old computer - and my wallet ;-)
with autologin I have no problem
Unfortunately, autologin never woks for me, as for rolling (and 4.0 since my boss changed my computer). I always boot in text mode.
Fortunately, today SliTaz-test doesn't want to start with [c]tux / startx[/c] (short way). So I boot as you mention: [c]tux > su/root > tazx > exit > startx[/c] (long way) and it works each time.
I then alternatively use the 2 methods several times: short way always fails, long way always works.
Here is the output of lspci:[c]
root@slitaz:/home/tux# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev c4)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev c4)
00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 (rev c4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM76 Express Chipset LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04)
0a:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2200 (rev c4)
0b:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
[/c]
and, not sure it'll be usefull, "output" of tazx:[c]
root@slitaz:/home/tux# tazx
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (91.121.171.224:80)
xorg-xf86-video-inte 100% |*****************************************| 373k 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for: xorg-xf86-video-intel
==========================================================================================
Missing: xorg-libXvMC
Missing: mesa-dri-intel
Missing: libdrm-intel
==========================================================================================
3 missing packages to install.
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (91.121.171.224:80)
xorg-libXvMC-1.0.8.t 100% |*****************************************| 9504 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for: xorg-libXvMC
==========================================================================================
Missing: xorg-libXv
==========================================================================================
1 missing package to install.
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (91.121.171.224:80)
xorg-libXv-1.0.8.taz 100% |*****************************************| 6776 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of: xorg-libXv
==========================================================================================
Copying xorg-libXv... [ Done ]
Extracting xorg-libXv... [ Done ]
Extracting the pseudo fs... [ Done ]
Installing xorg-libXv... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
==========================================================================================
xorg-libXv (1.0.8) is installed.
Installation of: xorg-libXvMC
==========================================================================================
Copying xorg-libXvMC... [ Done ]
Extracting xorg-libXvMC... [ Done ]
Extracting the pseudo fs... [ Done ]
Installing xorg-libXvMC... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
==========================================================================================
xorg-libXvMC (1.0.8) is installed.
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (91.121.171.224:80)
mesa-dri-intel-9.1.3 100% |*****************************************| 259k 0:00:00 ETA
Tracking dependencies for: mesa-dri-intel
==========================================================================================
Missing: mesa
Missing: mesa-dri
Missing: libdrm-intel
==========================================================================================
3 missing packages to install.
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (91.121.171.224:80)
mesa-9.1.3.tazpkg 100% |*****************************************| 835k 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of: mesa
==========================================================================================
Copying mesa... [ Done ]
Extracting mesa... [ Done ]
Extracting the pseudo fs... [ Done ]
Installing mesa... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
==========================================================================================
mesa (9.1.3) is installed.
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (91.121.171.224:80)
mesa-dri-9.1.3.tazpk 100% |*****************************************| 6541k 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of: mesa-dri
==========================================================================================
Copying mesa-dri... [ Done ]
Extracting mesa-dri... [ Done ]
Extracting the pseudo fs... [ Done ]
Installing mesa-dri... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
==========================================================================================
mesa-dri (9.1.3) is installed.
Connecting to mirror.slitaz.org (91.121.171.224:80)
libdrm-intel-2.4.45. 100% |*****************************************| 42192 0:00:00 ETA
Installation of: libdrm-intel
==========================================================================================
Copying libdrm-intel... [ Done ]
Extracting libdrm-intel... [ Done ]
Extracting the pseudo fs... [ Done ]
Installing libdrm-intel... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
==========================================================================================
libdrm-intel (2.4.45) is installed.
Installation of: mesa-dri-intel
==========================================================================================
Copying mesa-dri-intel... [ Done ]
Extracting mesa-dri-intel... [ Done ]
Extracting the pseudo fs... [ Done ]
Installing mesa-dri-intel... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
==========================================================================================
mesa-dri-intel (9.1.3) is installed.
Installation of: xorg-xf86-video-intel
==========================================================================================
Copying xorg-xf86-video-intel... [ Done ]
Extracting xorg-xf86-video-intel... [ Done ]
Extracting the pseudo fs... [ Done ]
Installing xorg-xf86-video-intel... [ Done ]
Removing all tmp files... [ Done ]
==========================================================================================
xorg-xf86-video-intel (2.21.9) is installed.
X.Org X Server 1.12.1
Release Date: 2012-04-13
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: SliTaz GNU/Linux
Current Operating System: Linux slitaz 3.2-slitaz #4 SMP Thu Aug 15 21:36:19 UTC 2013 i686
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=(iso)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/null kmap=fr-latin1 autologin
Build Date: 22 March 2013 08:40:16AM
Current version of pixman: 0.28.2
Before reporting problems, chack http://www.slitaz.org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.2.log", Time: Sun Sep 1 11:59:11 2013
List of video drivers:
intel
fbdev
vesa
(++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new"
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
Configuration failed.
Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file.
cp: can't stat '/etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh': No such file or directory
cp: can't stat '/etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh': No such file or directory[/c]
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its good that the long way works fine, because I would like to include this as a bootoption (start TazX)
please can you do one more try - start with autologin and when it boots to black screen, hit strg (ctrl) + alt + backspace - I had this today on a Athlon with Nvidia MCP61 components - after hitting this combination I got the slim login and it started without any problems
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OK. Forum was down this morning and now, I'm at my office.
It seems to me when I get a black screen that ctrl+alt+backspace (as ctrl+alt+suppress) has no effect, I have to reboot.
I will try this evening and let you know.
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new version of the iso in the first post - added icons for portable QtWeb and portable Firefox, instruction how to extract also in the first post
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My mistake. When I get a black screen:
ctrl+alt+backspace -> return to mode text
[c]startx[/c] again -> SliTaz starts
Same with the new iso.
exit choice from tazbox logout doesn't work when SliTaz started with [c]tux[/c] and then [c]startx[/c]; works only when SliTaz started with [c]su/root[/c] and then [c]slim[/c]
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Working here also in a VM, despite what I said earlier.
It did not work since i had allocated ONLY 192 MB of RAM, more is required... Fine with 1GB.
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sorry Ceel, I have to ask you again, because I cannot reproduce this - all my machines start without any problem: can you please run from the terminal:
tazbox logout
and post the error
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Don't be sorry kultex and be sure you work more for me than I work for you ;-)
[c]tux@slitaz:~$ tazbox logout<br />
Obt-Message: Xinerama extension is not present on the server[/c]
EDIT:
and when I hit a key to exit, a second message:
[c]tux@slitaz:~$ tazbox logout
Obt-Message: Xinerama extension is not present on the server
Obt-Message: Failed to open an Input Method
tux@slitaz:~$ e[/c]
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Ceel, can you try to find something about Xinerama extension in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
can you install xorg-xineramaproto , login again and try, if something changes
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can you try to find something about Xinerama extension in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[c][ 60.351] (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA[/c]
This is the only line concernin xinerama.
an you install xorg-xineramaproto , login again and try, if something changes
done and same
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which driver is taking the intel card? fbdev or vesa?
is it a sandy bridge chipset?
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