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#1 2013-12-02 18:59:44

shann
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Survey for create backport repository for stable release

Hi,

I propose a survey on the creation of a package repository for SliTaz stable version (like the backports repository of Debian).

It would include the most popular software such as Firefox, Midori, VLC, etc. ..

So I ask you your opinion on this proposal and what software you would have in this repository.

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#2 2013-12-03 19:06:37

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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

Sounds like a good idea, especially as development seems to have stalled, (better safe than sorry).

Regarding what to put into it; I think all the programs that are on the live bootable DVD might be good.

#3 2013-12-04 14:49:44

sixofeight
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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

what to put in

Primarily (version) updates for programs with security flaws.(are there any?)

then gathering together the goodies which are scattered in the forum

eg.mojo's wifi driver,Trixar_za's legacy flash etc.

and 3rd some improvements

locale for sylpheed

lbreakout2:

the cli-output said that lbreakout2 was compiled without sound and music.

a Game without sound = no fun.

Thanks a lot

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#4 2013-12-05 20:26:41

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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

For sure !  Time to have a complete OS which works out of the box !  A kind of "Slitaz XP/Mint"

I propose a vote to decide which program for each task.

InternetBrowser : Firefox (stable,gtk, and don't spy you ; so no midori,opera,chrome)

Player : Gnome-Mplayer or Totem (gtk) (so don't need an audio player) + codecs

FileBrowser : Pcmanfm  (don't like spacefm)

VideoEditing : OpenShot (= the linux's movie maker)

ImageEditing : Gimp (or something more simple ?)

Extracter : Xarchiver (or at least something fully able to deal with zip and ..rar!)

Viewer : ePDFView is not very optimal

Office : hard debate ... but i think the solution should be "portable"

and all the hardware drivers,firmwares available in the repositories into the iso for a first boot wizard-configurator

#5 2013-12-05 22:40:42

Trixar_za
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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

Let me weigh in about the above:

Firefox: Not lightweight at all, bad support from authors and generally a memory hog. Not that Chrome and Opera are any lighter (in fact Chrome is WORSE than Firefox at the moment).

Gnome-Mplayer: Maybe since it only needs Mplayer and codecs to work. Not Totem unless you actively want to drag half of GNOME with it.

PCMANFM: Legacy doesn't work without HAL and the current version is heavier (dependency and resources wise) than XFCE4. We might as well just use XFCE4 instead. Spacefm is pretty much dead too.

Xarchiver: While it's my favorite archive extraction program, it hasn't been updated in years, so it lacks proper support for 7zip and the new xz formats.

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#6 2013-12-05 23:04:43

kultex
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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

spacefm is not dead - new version was released on 6th of November

http://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/news.html

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#7 2013-12-05 23:54:20

sixofeight
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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

@moulefrite

Hi bro...I love your posts....still advertising your "first boot wizard"..;-)

about your "vote to decide which program"

InternetBrowser, ImageEditing, Office, Player, VideoEditing, none by default but a repo where I can choose the one I like

(eg. I use Midori, so i dont want FF build in by default)

Maybe I'm the only one but I like to have a small, basic system

and then I decide what to add to it.

You can find a "full featured oob distro" on every corner; but not a small one.

cheers

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#8 2013-12-06 06:44:36

shann
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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

Hi,

sixofeight your idea on a screen to choose which programs installed is not meaningless.

  There is already a version more or less light (SliTaz gtkonly), which contains only the bare necessities, or at least no closer.

I'll start by grouping optimizations and addons that exist on the forum (mojo's wifi driver, Trixar_za's legacy flash etc..)

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#9 2013-12-06 15:29:32

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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

sixofeight,

hihi , yes I still do.  By now, I know 5 newbies who give up after a black screen.  I don't like to feel boring to linux newcomers when I say :  " yes but .. bla bla bla  .."   wink  .  A kind of Slitaz "Mint" or "XP" flavor (with stable packages) could be a nice idea as long as it might be possible to strip off all the unecessary during the wizard-configurator session.

Trixar, what would be the best softs to include ?

#10 2013-12-06 17:05:40

domcox
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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

Hi!

I dream to have the choice to decide myself which program I want for each task that I need to complete.

My dream:

I start SliTaz from an USB key (or a frugal install), a minimalist iso with only Xorg, Gtk, Openbox, LXDE. No apps.

Then I load Tazweb, to display an App Center, a page listing software categories like Internet, Graphics, Office.. you know this stuff. I select which apps I want to install, push Enter and my selection of packages is installed from the internet, or even better from a cache located on the USB Key.

Almost how I use SliTaz these days, except I do not have an App Center, I do all this stuff by hand in CLI mode.

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#11 2013-12-07 13:01:36

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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

moulefrite: My opinion?

Desktop Enviroment: XFCE4 for GTK2 or RazorQt for Qt4

Lightweight Office: Abiword, Gnumeric, Scribus, Claws-mail, GNUCash or Homebank, evince or mupdf

Proper Office Suit: OpenOffice or Softmaker Office

Multimedia: Gnome-Mplayer (for video) and DeadBeef (for music and because I love it)

Code editing: Geany - no question tongue

Lightweight Web browsers: Qupzilla, SlimBoat, QtWeb or Midori - in that order

Heavier Web browsers: Firefox, Chrome or Opera - in order of preference

Chat clients: Pidgin; Hexchat or Xchat - maybe KvIRC

Image Editing: mtpaint (lightweight), GIMP (heavier) and/or Inkscape (heavier vector graphics)

Video Editing: Openshot? Can't think of anything else we can use here...

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#12 2013-12-07 22:31:51

bucaro
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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

Creo que lo que se ha apuntado está bien. Yo simplemente apuntaría un lector de archivos midis eficiente Msescore o Timidity lo son, pero en mi ordenador, estando instalados no se abren. Con otros linux se abren.

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#13 2013-12-11 10:45:38

erjo
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Re: Survey for create backport repository for stable release

Hi,

Backports is a good idea.

It can include every packages that can be compiled with the stable  SliTaz toolchain.

Except the toolchain.

So we can have packages uptodate with security fix and missing  fonctionnalities.

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